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World's Greatest Detectives: BBC Sherlock vs L
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Both are amoral on some degree, but Sherlock is clearly bound by emotions: He killed Magnussen to save Mary. and on the last episode he was about to shoot himself to save both Mycroft and John. Sherlock is more human than L ever was.
Both L and Sherlock shares same weaknesses: Childish and hate losing. However, L can still playing around without losing his main goal. Remember the first episode of Sherlock? He almost killed himself (50:50 chance, but the opponent is almost too good at reading people) in an unnecessary contest.
L won't hesitate to use any means to achieve his goal, and he's also good at using his subordinates or any "tools" available on the table, unlike Sherlock's solitary nature (as he clearly won't endanger people around him) and he only has MI6 or British government as his support unlike L's global support.
Thus, L is the more dangerous and powerful detective than Sherlock.
Bonus round: Would Cumberbatch Sherlock be able to solve the Kira case if was in L's place instead? No, Sherlock doesn't and won't believe any supernatural root cause, he will keep looking for a rational solution for the case until the end.
(however, if the opponent is Eurus Holmes, I guess even L can't win)
Both L and Sherlock shares same weaknesses: Childish and hate losing. However, L can still playing around without losing his main goal. Remember the first episode of Sherlock? He almost killed himself (50:50 chance, but the opponent is almost too good at reading people) in an unnecessary contest.
L won't hesitate to use any means to achieve his goal, and he's also good at using his subordinates or any "tools" available on the table, unlike Sherlock's solitary nature (as he clearly won't endanger people around him) and he only has MI6 or British government as his support unlike L's global support.
Thus, L is the more dangerous and powerful detective than Sherlock.
Bonus round: Would Cumberbatch Sherlock be able to solve the Kira case if was in L's place instead? No, Sherlock doesn't and won't believe any supernatural root cause, he will keep looking for a rational solution for the case until the end.
(however, if the opponent is Eurus Holmes, I guess even L can't win)
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I would say Sherlock is more intelligent, but L is a better detective for reasons above. And Sherlock wouldn't be able to solve the Kira investigation for reasons above.
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>Both are amoral on some degree, but Sherlock is clearly bound by emotions: He killed Magnussen to save Mary. and on the last episode he was about to shoot himself to save both Mycroft and John. Sherlock is more human than L ever was.
Well, no, not really, Sherlock being "bound by emotions" only applies when it's to do with John, Ms Hudson or such, not when he's by himself, as Eurus says "You supress your emotion to refine your reasoning, I'd like to see that." Sherlock was willing to shoot the Governor while the War Vet wasn't, Eurus told Sherlock that if he did it, it wouldn't count.
We clearly see the difference between Intellect and Emotion in Sherlock, Microft refused to kill a man, while Sherlock will kill someone to finish a case; "We killed the Murderer but couldn't find his legs, I'll call it a draw."
>Both L and Sherlock shares same weaknesses: Childish and hate losing. However, L can still playing around without losing his main goal
So can Sherlock, remember the Magnuson case where he played around with Mary and John before going back to the main case?
Sherlock never loses sight of his main goal, he chastised Irene for this before destroying her.
>L won't hesitate to use any means to achieve his goal, and he's also good at using his subordinates or any "tools" available on the table
What do you mean? Sherlock had a man forced to stay in a dangerous household that had been broken into just so it would make it easier to catch the murderer.
Or when he had a Little girl and a Man stay in a house he knew would be burgled and if they confronted the man, killed, just so the man wouldn't get suspicious.
>unlike Sherlock's solitary nature (as he clearly won't endanger people around him)
What do you mean? He invites John along BECAUSE it's Dangerous, he invites John to go to Magnuson's because it was so dangerous, he invited John the first time to his first case because it was dangerous, Sherlock involves those around him in dangerous situations all the time, and sometimes for the ***** and giggles like the Hound of Baskervill where he tormented John to see the effects of the drug or when he put John at the end of a hallway where Mary was willing to kill Sherlock to keep her secret.
>and he only has MI6 or British government as his support unlike L's global support.
No, he doesn't, he has Microft, the person who puppeteers governments because he can and will actively rewrite history for his brother, and he had Eurus who was considered more intelligent than All the world's governments put together.
>Thus, L is the more dangerous and powerful detective than Sherlock.
Based on what? Sherlock can figure out cases by just hearing the most minor details about them and did all this;
BBC Sherlock has better intelligence feats too, such as simulating in his own mind multiple years of a case he has limited information on all within 5 minutes and then simulating what everyone would say after waking up too.
Then Sherlock also has the learning feat, where Microft said he learned a Language in an hour and Sherlock called him slow.
Then there was Eureos' puzzle, where Microft and more had many many years to figure out her riddle and after picking up the case again after 1 day figured it out.
Then on top of this was able to predict Watson and multiple other people up to 3 weeks ahead of time.
Then the bullet feat, where Sherlock was shot, before he even moved from the impact Sherlock had simulated other people and learned of what to do, how to stop himself from dying and so on all within what can only be a millisecond.
Then there was the fragment of the code, where Irene had a fragment of computer code that had been encrypted so well the top cryptographer in the Country couldn't crack it, yet Sherlock after 5 seconds decrypted it, completed the entire code and was able to figure out what plane, when, where, and who'd be on it.
All these are far far far far far more complex than what L has done.
Sherlock would take 1 look at Light and get him arrested on the spot, he would precog light weeks in Advance and neg him that way, and yes, Sherlock is willing to accept Supernatural means, like when he simulated YEARS in 5 minutes, he was willing to accept that Moriarty has come from the Reichenbak Caldron if it aligned with all the facts, but it didn't and this was tearing him apart until he figured it all out.
Well, no, not really, Sherlock being "bound by emotions" only applies when it's to do with John, Ms Hudson or such, not when he's by himself, as Eurus says "You supress your emotion to refine your reasoning, I'd like to see that." Sherlock was willing to shoot the Governor while the War Vet wasn't, Eurus told Sherlock that if he did it, it wouldn't count.
We clearly see the difference between Intellect and Emotion in Sherlock, Microft refused to kill a man, while Sherlock will kill someone to finish a case; "We killed the Murderer but couldn't find his legs, I'll call it a draw."
>Both L and Sherlock shares same weaknesses: Childish and hate losing. However, L can still playing around without losing his main goal
So can Sherlock, remember the Magnuson case where he played around with Mary and John before going back to the main case?
Sherlock never loses sight of his main goal, he chastised Irene for this before destroying her.
>L won't hesitate to use any means to achieve his goal, and he's also good at using his subordinates or any "tools" available on the table
What do you mean? Sherlock had a man forced to stay in a dangerous household that had been broken into just so it would make it easier to catch the murderer.
Or when he had a Little girl and a Man stay in a house he knew would be burgled and if they confronted the man, killed, just so the man wouldn't get suspicious.
>unlike Sherlock's solitary nature (as he clearly won't endanger people around him)
What do you mean? He invites John along BECAUSE it's Dangerous, he invites John to go to Magnuson's because it was so dangerous, he invited John the first time to his first case because it was dangerous, Sherlock involves those around him in dangerous situations all the time, and sometimes for the ***** and giggles like the Hound of Baskervill where he tormented John to see the effects of the drug or when he put John at the end of a hallway where Mary was willing to kill Sherlock to keep her secret.
>and he only has MI6 or British government as his support unlike L's global support.
No, he doesn't, he has Microft, the person who puppeteers governments because he can and will actively rewrite history for his brother, and he had Eurus who was considered more intelligent than All the world's governments put together.
>Thus, L is the more dangerous and powerful detective than Sherlock.
Based on what? Sherlock can figure out cases by just hearing the most minor details about them and did all this;
BBC Sherlock has better intelligence feats too, such as simulating in his own mind multiple years of a case he has limited information on all within 5 minutes and then simulating what everyone would say after waking up too.
Then Sherlock also has the learning feat, where Microft said he learned a Language in an hour and Sherlock called him slow.
Then there was Eureos' puzzle, where Microft and more had many many years to figure out her riddle and after picking up the case again after 1 day figured it out.
Then on top of this was able to predict Watson and multiple other people up to 3 weeks ahead of time.
Then the bullet feat, where Sherlock was shot, before he even moved from the impact Sherlock had simulated other people and learned of what to do, how to stop himself from dying and so on all within what can only be a millisecond.
Then there was the fragment of the code, where Irene had a fragment of computer code that had been encrypted so well the top cryptographer in the Country couldn't crack it, yet Sherlock after 5 seconds decrypted it, completed the entire code and was able to figure out what plane, when, where, and who'd be on it.
All these are far far far far far more complex than what L has done.
Sherlock would take 1 look at Light and get him arrested on the spot, he would precog light weeks in Advance and neg him that way, and yes, Sherlock is willing to accept Supernatural means, like when he simulated YEARS in 5 minutes, he was willing to accept that Moriarty has come from the Reichenbak Caldron if it aligned with all the facts, but it didn't and this was tearing him apart until he figured it all out.
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