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Willverse 1-A Upgrade - Icons and The Way

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The Way [The Way Between World] Profile:

TLDR - The Way is
Icons:
Icons are archetypal greater concepts of reality which are fundamentally intrinsic to all of reality because they serve as the single template for all things they represent (Such as the Winter Icon being the manifestation of Ice, of Cold, of all things that freeze and are frozen) to such a degree that alterations to them change all of reality itself and change the way the entire world works. Icons have complimentary halves, opposites, which are present alongside them to form a duality such as "Non-Existence" and "Existence", "Cold" and "Heat" while sourced and and empowered by the Way, the fundamental basis for all of existence, that exists deeper than and completely separately from reality such that Icons themselves are said to be beyond the world and the manifestation of their influence of it is "projected from beyond reality" because they reside in a dimension beyond the physical.

TLDR- Icons are
Now to address an elephant in the room, certain Character who are themselves not 1-A beings have access to these Icons and even the Archetypal properties of order but this access to attained through the Way's own recognition in both cases.

Conclusion
  • The Way Between Worlds is Tier 1-A
  • All Icons are Tier Low 1-A
  • When a non 1-A being gains control over an Icon or becomes 1-A they achieve this through the direct recognition of the Way rather than something to do with their own individual power
Agree: ActuallySpaceMan42 [Neutral on Transduality],
Disagree:
Neutral:
 
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Let me rephrase. I don't understand qualitative superiority enough to know if this qualifies, not, I don't think it is or can't be 1-A.
Arceus got outversal for the same reasons, but that mostly depends if the mods don't just do an obvious double standard.
 
Yeah The Way being whatness and source of all things also independent from it are enough for 1A unless it has anti-feats
 
I have no real stake in this since I am not knowledgeable on 1-A at all, but wouldn't being a "dimension beyond the physical" still mean that it is a part of dimensionality? If that is completely wrong then disregard.
 
Tiers make sense to me. Abilities also seem mostly fine, with the only one I'm not sure about being Transduality.
Thank you for you're input as for the Transduality, I think it fits pretty well

Reading the thread you link of Ultima downgrading something the issue was that the duality wasn't something that logically counted as a duality to the specification of the Nonduality page while also not being thoroughly explained as on within the verse itself(which is something the Nonduality page actually account for on a case by case basis)

They specifically used this line from the page as the reasoning:
To quote the Nonduality page:

For this ability, dualities refer to logical dualities where the duality is between "A" and "not A" where A is some object or attribute. For example, fire and water are not a duality; the duality of fire would be fire and not fire
The main example of a direct duality from the Icons is Nonexistence and Existence - which are explicitly listed on the Nonduality page as one such duality
For this ability, dualities refer to logical dualities where the duality is between "A" and "not A" where A is some object or attribute. For example, fire and water are not a duality; the duality of fire would be fire and not fire. The duality of existence would be existence and not existence, or, alternately, existence and nonexistence or existence and void
 
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