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William Afton Isn't An EG

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His Intelligence Description: Extraordinary Genius (Is a very skilled businessman, Co-Founding and managing Fredbear's Family diner. Got away with the missing children incident through a lack of evidence, with children's bodies never being found. William is a standout in the field of robotics, building the Sister Location animatronics and the S.C.U.P.E.R, a device which manipulates soul energy to grant immortality. Saw through Henry's plan to kill him.

Let's dissect this really quickly, I'll explain some stuff and other stuff is very basic.

Average - Is a very skilled businessman

Average, likely Above Average - Got away with the missing children incident through a lack of evidence, with children's bodies never being found

Unknown, likely Gifted to Genius: William is a standout in the field of robotics, building the Sister Location animatronics and the S.C.U.P.E.R, a device which manipulates soul energy to grant immortality.

Okay, this is what gives him EG, he is able to create something that grants immortality, immortality is impossible IRL, making him above a genius and therefore EG. Now, I'm not going to lie, creating something that's impossible to do in real life, then translating that into real life intelligence as if the verse wouldn't have different laws set in place therefore making the argument that he's an EG because we translate that irl thing to the verse is wrong and not an appeal to reality because the feat must be evaluated relative to the rules and tech ceiling of the verse, not ours. This wouldn't apply to physics based calculations because because those are already anchored to real world formulas, and we only apply them when the verse demonstrably follows real physics closely enough for the math to remain valid, like, in the real world, KE at light speed is impossible, therefore, we cannot translate KE into fictional feats, the same applies here.

Generally, a summary is that the results of some feats don't translate to the cognitive ability of the person who does such a thing.

Average, likely Above Average - Saw through Henry's plan to kill him
 
Yeah I agree. He should definitely get genius for making the animatronics and whatnot but the immortality part definitely doesn't work for IQ.

It's similar to this
However, take note that, in order to qualify, characters genuinely have to invent things on their own, not mostly rely on already extremely futuristic settings.
Where it's not that Afton invented something but rather discovered a supernatural substance that exists in-universe. The feat is purely the result of the setting rather than his actual intelligence.
 
I also have doubts about the "Extraordinary" part, but I think Gifted to Genius range sounds more reasonable.
 
Not that I give a shit about FNAF, but, isn't the setting literally pre-modern day? The caveat is futuristic settings enabling futuristic tech from the get go, much like you don't need to invent entirely new welding methods and electronics to make a toaster or some shit because others already figured that out for you.

If he's making stuff we don't have irl, in a similar context, it isn't exactly fair to limit him to our context when he's evidently surpassed it.
Remember, EG is just "better than irl", and it isn't like it covers every facet ever if that's the concern, that isn't how intelligence works both irl and on wiki. Just note he's EG in specific fields if that's what his feats pertain to like how Scarecrow is well into EG in chemistry, psychology and biology and some fields of robotics, but his ass sucks at 80% of other things.

Though, if his big feat is just finding something that already existed, like Ra's Al Ghul finding a lazarus pit or some shit, yeah fuckm, downgrade away ig, I'm just speaking for future reference here.
 
For notice, his feats in robotics are far better than normal; he has even figured out how to make animatronics be able to digest human food.
 
Not that I give a shit about FNAF, but, isn't the setting literally pre-modern day? The caveat is futuristic settings enabling futuristic tech from the get go, much like you don't need to invent entirely new welding methods and electronics to make a toaster or some shit because others already figured that out for you.
TBF it got revealed in Secret of the Mimic that a guy named Edwin Murray was making like roombas except more advanced, giant ass walking ticket booths, and other crazy robotics stuff in the 60s and 70s, so he wasn’t the only one doing this type of thing in that time. Though it is highly likely he did make the Funtimes and og Springlock tech himself.
 
what y'all are arguing is exactly why i think "possibly EG" is perfect, cuz we can see irl engineers make better suits or point out glaring safety issues that even killed him, and every other argument for his intelligence is either not true (like, how can you prove that the success of the company is his work? how did he see through henry's plans and still died and went to a customized hell lmfao?) or not his, like the getting away with murder (no ****! a white rich USA citizen got away from a crime everyone knows he's commited because the large company he owns has a ton of good lawyers and he stayed fine even though the company suffered consequences? wow, what an original, bet it has never happened before) which is actually a anti-feat for his lawyers cuz the place still got closed lmfao

edit cuz i forgor: but the possibility of EG is inevitable, as i see it, cuz that mf actually made good robots, at some point, despite some glaring safety issues in a lot of models
 
edit cuz i forgor: but the possibility of EG is inevitable, as i see it, cuz that mf actually made good robots, at some point, despite some glaring safety issues in a lot of models
Making good robot's isn't possibly EG.
 
Ts is dead but Afton has much more than that
If you have arguments to make, please do not comment on necro'd threads.
As i have changed rating to Possibly EG long ago, if you wanna contest, please make another CRT. If you call me i'll be there
 
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