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Why is Masadaverse's characters High Outerverse level now ?

Well, I understand the kinda understand the article and the trancendent levels, but I don't get it why is enough to be High 1-A, now I'm doubtful. Why is this verse so powerful ? Including this like the Throne and the Heavens ?
 
the masadaverse explanation page is outdated in many ways but the CRT that Elizhaa posted is why the gods are high 1-A. So if u wanna know why you they're high 1-A it starts off with the gods conceptually being above the singularity which is a pseudo hierarchy (depth of levels depending on the God's strength) and a realm that goes from 1-A to 1-A+ (the reason why its a + because of Hajun's strength since it would correspond to how deep his singularity would be)
 
I still don't get it! In Reinhardt's profile says: "With all eight swastikas open, Reinhard's Law begins to emanate over the entire world" and "To even the weakest God with 1 Taikyoku, an object that governs All Of Creation such as the Throne is nothing more than a tool.", Like, all of creation das some sorte of 1-A+ construct. And I read about creation being a "canvas" and colors and the levels that transcend each other, but that's more Outerverse level+ than High Outerverse. And the Throne and Taikyoku's sistem (from 1 to 100), and the Hadou/Gudou gods being High 1-A, it's so confusing, and transcend creation
 
(Sorry for being so confusing, I have tried to reply before, but for some reason it didn't post my reply and I lost the previous post an hour ago and I get pissed off
 
To put it simple:

All of creation is the "canvas" and it is also referring to the singularity.

The singularity goes up to 1-A+

The Throne and the Gods are transcendent to it in a manner that is bears no power over them, they simply see it as nothing and can only pose a problem when backed up by a colored Taiji, otherwise it's nothing.

I hope this helps you
 
Thank you,but there are some doubts that persist, like: why is the Throne so powerful ? And the heavens,story and concepts ? Where can I find this information about the Hadou/Gudou gods ? Cuz the Masadaverse explanation page definitely needs revision !
 
all creation meaning that includes the singularity which is the nucleus of the creation which i explained above it goes from 1-A to 1-A+. the reason why it varies because of the god's strength, since hajun exists, 1-A+ singularity can happen. The reason why they use canvas is because the throne god is the painter using a brush to paint all over creation. if we use DC analogy overmonitor is the white canvas that the writer uses to draw characters from. the colors that you're talking about are taiji/taikyoku, there are two versions of it (colorless and colored), colorless is defined as one capable of interacting with the singularity meanwhile colored can just easily reign over it. The Throne is simply above the system of singularity hence the throne is also high 1-A
 
He explicitly asked where he could find the information about the Gods and why they are that powerful so I responded with the obvious choise, him/her/it not understanding past that isn't something I can help that much
 
Thanks, I have a better understanding now, but in the profiles that I have read, all of Hadou/Gudou gods are High 1-A, even through all of creation is At best 1-A+ ("To even the weakest God with 1 Taikyoku, an object that governs All Of Creation such as the Throne is nothing more than a tool") like, having Taikuoku is enough to trancend everything but still needs the throne to trancend creation. And I read about the Ren Fuji and Marie's profiles and I don't understand how normal puny humans can have such mind blowing power, and the story of the verse and how humans achieved such power. Ren Fuji, Reinhard Heydrich, Mercurius, and Hajun, and the Heavens, Concepts and Creation. Last time that I open the Masadaverse profiles, although I didn't understand the concept of the verse, at least it make sense about their power. Sorry for being a pain the ass
 
And why are they High Outerverse level, even through Masasaverse seens at best 1-A+ to the rest of creation (By the way, Masadaverse's Multiverse is High 1-B or 1-A+, since I read of a Thread that its possible for a verse to have 1-A realms,) and if so, then how can Humans like Reinhard and Mercurius trancend it ?
 
I'll keep this short.

Assuming the "Multiverse" you're talking about is more or less referring to the overall cosmology which includes the Singularity reaching up to 1-A+ depending on the Throne God, they are High 1-A for being able to completely take over/destroy All Of Creation regardless of its size ( as in, stacking infinities ) and perceiving the entirety of them as something insignificant as well as being completely external to its expansion.

As for the Throne, it is, for some reasons, an all-encompassing device that exists so that the Throne Gods can govern creation without destroying it by farting or something - they are too strong, even their spiritual pressure would utterly destroy everything if left unchecked, the Throne is made to to keep that in check. And due to it's all-encompassing and transcendental nature (as it will always exist above All Of Creation and encompass it) , it serves as "baseline" for the Gods to scale from, since they can destroy it at will.

I'll also update the explanation page when I have time.
 
Yes "used to be" are the key words, Rein didnt trenscend shit when he was human, it wasnt until he ascended that he did.

Same goes for Merc he didnt become "all-powerful" until he became a god.
 
I Kinda get it about the Hierarchy, but still,some doubts break my mind! Things about the heavens and the Hadou gods. And Although I kinda get about Creation being a 1-A+ construct, why does the feat of Reinhard's law emanating through all of the world is an High 1-A feat ? I through the singularity was a hole in reality, but it seens to be all of creation (sorry for being a pain in the ass, can someone tell me where can I find the visual novel/game of the series in english so I can understand more ?)
 
Have you looked on the Revision thread that brought this tier change? All the evidence, scans and translations was there.
 
Sometimes the synonyms for "all over the world" can equate to all creation, which make sense rather just a universe or the multiverse.
 
"Therefore naturally, many concepts that accompany with a picture can be applied. Then for example, under the pressure of the brush on the place where you had recoating it many times over, a hole will appear on the canvas." which describes singularity as a whole. It was mentioned in CRT it is the center of all creation which was mentioned that it is a realm where new concepts spawn from.
 
Sua feiura matou Alex said:
Oh shout! Well, is there any site where I can find something to at least read the translated entries ?
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The only translated main entry is Dies Irae Amantes amentes, it's a game, you can look it up and get it for yourself if you're interested.
 
Sua feiura matou Alex said:
And why are they High Outerverse level, even through Masasaverse seens at best 1-A+ to the rest of creation (By the way, Masadaverse's Multiverse is High 1-B or 1-A+, since I read of a Thread that its possible for a verse to have 1-A realms,) and if so, then how can Humans like Reinhard and Mercurius trancend it ?
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Its simple : some humans are born with potential to become God. Like Reinhard for instance.

Heck, Reinhard is an Apoptosis so I wouldn't really treat him as a human.

Ren is Merc's clone-thing. So he isn't really human either.

Merc? he just spontaneously appeared out of nowhere.


Three main Hadou Gods aren't really meant to be humans in the first place, IMO.


But of course, there are many cases of other humans becoming Gods. So maybe Masadaverse is just that human-friendly of a setting.
 
Ok, I just read the new thread made again and things made a lot more sense, but I don't fully get why the Simgularity is 1-A+ and how it's possible to transcend it and become High 1-A ! Also I have two questions: 1: Which tier the Throne is and can affect ? 1-A+ or High 1-A ? 2: Why does The Longinus Dreizehn Orden members are considered High-A ? 3-How can a Hadou God transcend the Singularity and become High 1-A ?

Thanks for attention ( I developed a fascination for High 1-A)
 
>but I don't fully get why the Simgularity is 1-A+

Because it can expand itself infinetly

> how it's possible to transcend it and become High 1-A

Fiction? The gods don't care about it, doesn't matter how many infinities it stacks the Gods will be above it always, thats how they became High 1-A

>Also I have two questions: 1: Which tier the Throne is and can affect ? 1-A+ or High 1-A ?

High 1-A

>Why does The Longinus Dreizehn Orden members are considered High-A ?

Because as Hadou Cells they inhabit the same place and are boosted by their Hadou God, in this case Reinhard.

>How can a Hadou God transcend the Singularity and become High 1-A ?

Read above

I might get something wrong but this is the general idea
 
The Singularity, like the rest of Creation, is contained within the Throne, the Gods see the Throne as nothing more then a tool and exist varying levels above it.
 
The singularity has layers that unless u have equal or greater strength u cant bypass a throne god backing the singularity with their strength. Hence Hajuns singularity is unfathomably deeper and superior to mercurius'. Hajun is the reason why its 1-A+. To become high 1-A u need to be conceptually superior to 1-A hierarchies hence it can be said that any user who becomes a God using taiji is above all creations and can overwrite anything in the verse unless no one is opposing them.
 
Ok I get it, thanks ! Do you guys know the characters Anu and Padomay (The Elder Scrolls) ? They are considered High 1-A because they are above infinite levels of unstructured levels of caps (which are above creation). Does the Singularity, The Throne and The Hadou/Gudou gods work in the same way ?
 
Anu and Padomay are high 1-A because they are conceptually above the wheels (the reasoning for 1-A+ to cheacters such as Vivec and such). The wheels and the singularity are basically the scaling to the god tiers why they are high 1-A, the throne on the other hand is the baseline high 1-A in shinza
 
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