Why is fire force concept manip not type 1?

[Rez]

So the evangelist has type 2 concept manip for changing the very concept of pi from an insolvable equation to solvable one



This also changed the concept of circle and what is a circle, which is why the moon in fire force is not a sphere

Isn't that type 1?

It matches the example of type 1 concept manip given on the wiki

Conceptual Manipulation

Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create, and/or destroy abstract concepts. This ability has a variety of applications, ranging from not combat-applicable to incredibly dominating. Conceptual Manipulation involves the manipulation of concepts, and not the universe directly...

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For example, a circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

 

[ROZAN-TIMSINA0]

For example, a circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

that's just proves one property.


what about

Such concepts are completely independent from the part of reality they govern, except maybe of other concepts of this nature. These concepts shape all of reality within their area of influence and at whatever level that area exists in, and everything in it "participates" in these concepts. For example, a circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

 

[Rez]

These concepts shape all of reality within their area of influence and at whatever level that area exists in, and everything in it "participates" in these concepts. For example, a circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

The concept of pi being changed is effecting the concept of circles as a whole as shown by the moon not being a sphere. Pi is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. This applies to all circle.

So yes it's indeed influencing all of the reality that falls under it's area of influence

 

[ROZAN-TIMSINA0]

The concept of pi being changed is effecting the concept of circles as a whole as shown by the moon not being a sphere. Pi is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. This applies to all circle.

So yes it's indeed influencing all of the reality that falls under it's area of influence

you forgot the other two

Such concepts are completely independent from the part of reality they govern,
while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

The difference between Type 1 and Type 2, is that Type 1 is independent from reality.

This means the concept must either predate the reality that participates in it or be unaffected by the destruction of sed reality. It can also simply exist in a realm/dimension or whatever, that is separate from reality.