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Why does Madoka have type 5 acausality?
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I think it was due to existing outside of cause, effect, and laws completely
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She Transendences Causality duh
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Type 5: Causality Transcendence
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It just needs more context, especially for 3D characters, like Oryx
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Characters like Ikki and Stella should have acausality type 5
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Buddy, oryx took a ton of evidence to get type acausality when he was 3DCharacters like Ikki and Stella should have acausality type 5
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y?
Type 5: Causality Transcendence: Characters with this type of Acausality transcend the normal boundaries of cause and effect, existing outside of the causality of a system.
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You need a ton of evidence for a 3D character to get type 5 acausalit, also, this isn’t a Rukadai thread
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They can’t,normal people interact with them everydayCharacters like Ikki and Stella should have acausality type 5
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Then the normal people can affect acausality type 5
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U right, sorry
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That's weird/contradiction
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No, it just means that people can affect Acausality type 5, which is common in fiction
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Normal people here are all creatures that exist in Rakudai verse,they don’t have any special power or trait to interact with acausal type 5 so go ahead and make CRT to upgrade them
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No, it doesn't. This is a contradiction. And even then, "transcends causality" is just a buzzword with no meaning without context.
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What is the context for Madoka then?
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then literally all verses need to have their acausality type 5 removed, cuz there has characters who can affec them
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This CRT for her type 5
But those verses don’t have all characters in series that can affect acausal type 5
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But their acausality still can be affected, so, contradiction boobooboo, thats the argument
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If a verse has completely regular people who can affect Type 5 Acausality without Conceptual Manipulation then go ahead and downgrade them. Don't be a child about this.
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This is an extremely misconstrued version of what people are saying here.
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Acausal type 5 can still be affected by other acausal type 5 or CM type 2,but if every single normal human or animal can interact with them then it’s contradiction and their profiles are outdated
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I mean, Type 4 acausality is also "outside causality", so it should be just as invulnerable to people in the same way Type 5 does, which for some reason is not what happens in vsthreads.
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Type 4 is different causality not being outside it.
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The context behind Madoka type 5 is that not only she has the statement, but also her existence has shifted into a higher plane beyond the conventional law of Causality, making her unable to be interact with by normal means. Even the destruction of Multiverse, which would makes Law of Causality don't exist, isn't going affect her.
This is the reason why only Madoka who got Type 5 while Homura and AoC only got type 4 despite having the same statement about Causality Transendences.
This is the reason why only Madoka who got Type 5 while Homura and AoC only got type 4 despite having the same statement about Causality Transendences.
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If you get a statement of "I am outside causality" it surely wouldnt be enough for Type 5 and rather just Type 4, which would still make the character invulnerable to conventional harm, yet its not treated as such.
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Because most of the time, what's displayed is abiding by a different flow of causality even with that statement as opposed to some sort of invulnerability.
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But abiding by a different system of causality would mean that conventional attacks with cause would not work on them. We assume that causality manip wont work on those, yet we say that physical attacks does, which would kinda be a contradiction.
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Im seeing a lot of name fallacy here
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