Why are 2-A DnD characters so strong?

[JmikaelP]

Why Lady of Pain is one of the most powerful 2-A beings? A being that can destroy infinites multiverses can beat Lady of Pain?

 

[JmikaelP]

D&D Tier 2 and 1 explanations

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I dont understand why exactly Lady of Pain is more powerful? I want know a Character that can destroy infinite multiverses can beat Lady of pain?

 

[Qawsedf234]

I dont understand why exactly Lady of Pain is more powerful?

Bambu can explain it better, but from my understanding

• A singular outerplane is equal in size to the entire Material Plane. The Material Plane contains an infinite number of alternate universes. Later editons also note that there's canonically alternate timestreams but no one really scales to that aspect.
• The various Greater Gods can effect or notably threaten not just the Material Plane but the entire Cosmology of D&D.
• Notable patheons like the Greeks were noted as being much stronger than single franchise patheons like the FR or Greyhawk Patheons
• Orcus with the Last Word could kill any Greater God with that power and could only be stopped if a large cross pantheon effort of various Greater Gods. Despite this he would not be able to beat the Lady of Pain
• Vecna with a powerful 10th or 11th level spell became a infinitely ascending Greater God with something like 50+ levels over other GG like Zeus or Odin but was still not able to overpower the Lady of Pain

She scales to be above baseline 2-As by some hefty degrees without going into Low 1-C.

 

[JmikaelP]

The this outerplane are superior to a 2-A multiverse, but this outerplane are not enough to scale to Low 1-C?

• A singular outerplane is equal in size to the entire Material Plane. The Material Plane contains an infinite number of alternate universes. Later editons also note that there's canonically alternate timestreams but no one really scales to that aspect.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The this outerplane are superior to a 2-A multiverse, but this outerplane are not enough to scale to Low 1-C?

No, because all the Outerplanes are spatially the same just in different locations.

 

[JmikaelP]

And the diference is that Outerplanes are more big that normal multiverse?

 

[Qawsedf234]

There's just more than one Outer Plane. It's a bunch of 2-A multiverses crammed into a larger Low 1-C space.

 

[JmikaelP]

There's just more than one Outer Plane. It's a bunch of 2-A multiverses crammed into a larger Low 1-C space.

Then, it is a Low 1-C space, but without be a Low 1-C

 

[Qawsedf234]

Then, it is a Low 1-C space, but without be a Low 1-C

Nah, you can have multiple infinite 4D volumes fit into a larger infinite 5D volume. So you can have multiple 2A spaces without going into Low 1-C.

 

[JmikaelP]

Nah, you can have multiple infinite 4D volumes fit into a larger infinite 5D volume. So you can have multiple 2A spaces without going into Low 1-C.

Then, that Outerplane is like a 2-A with infinite multiverses that it is into a 5D plane

 

[Qawsedf234]

Outerplane is like a 2-A with infinite multiverses that it is into a 5D plane

I said that a Outerplane is equal in size to the multiverse, not a planar layer.

Though if the layers were 2A in size, then the Outer Planes would be Low 1-C.

 

[444_OverTimeNights]

Greater Gods can affect the infinite planes, each infinite in size, that surround infinite material planes each with its own set of planes, some of them having infinite layers. And that's just the basic Greater God, with a Divinity Rating of 16; every number higher than that completely stomps the last one (and can go up to 20), bypassing any immunity and resistance of the lower one.

The highest of them all is Vecna, who is powerful enough to stalemate the restricted Lady of Pain, who can completely and utterly stomp Orcus with the Last Word, who was capable of completely stomping Greater Gods to an insane degree.

Can you explain this with scans ???

 

[Qawsedf234]

Can you explain this with scans ???

They're all on the cosmology and Tier 2/1 Blogs.

• The Material Plane is infinite in size which contains an infinite number of alternate universes
• The Abyss which contains an infinite number of realms with different space-times
• The part about Divine Levels isn't correct so to say. Gruumsh nearly beat Corellon despite being 3 Divine Levels lower. It's more about Sphere vs Multi-Sphere Gods
• The LoP never fought Orcus, it was a scene in Dead Gods where the PC's see this vision, but the narration states "The Lady of Pain can't be beaten in a simple brawl". Meaning that Orcus with the Last Words still cannot defeat or kill her. If you mean the Greater God stuff then its just Orcus saying a word and killing them
• Vecna resisting the Lady of Pain comes from Die Vecna Die
• The resistance thing comes from Zeus and Hera, where Zeus can block Hera's precog. Though like with Gruumsh it should be noted that its not an auto-bypass or anything, it just more likely than not that a stronger God can get through the resistances of weaker Gods.

 

[444_OverTimeNights]

They're all on the cosmology and Tier 2/1 Blogs.

• The Material Plane is infinite in size which contains an infinite number of alternate universes
• The Abyss which contains an infinite number of realms with different space-times
• The part about Divine Levels isn't correct so to say. Gruumsh nearly beat Corellon despite being 3 Divine Levels lower. It's more about Sphere vs Multi-Sphere Gods
• The LoP never fought Orcus, it was a scene in Dead Gods where the PC's see this vision, but the narration states "The Lady of Pain can't be beaten in a simple brawl". Meaning that Orcus with the Last Words still cannot defeat or kill her. If you mean the Greater God stuff then its just Orcus saying a word and killing them
• Vecna resisting the Lady of Pain comes from Die Vecna Die
• The resistance thing comes from Zeus and Hera, where Zeus can block Hera's precog. Though like with Gruumsh it should be noted that its not an auto-bypass or anything, it just more likely than not that a stronger God can get through the resistances of weaker Gods.

Is there profiles on the player ? Like the player that we create

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Is there profiles on the player ? Like the player that we create

No

Except for the videogames ones

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

• The part about Divine Levels isn't correct so to say. Gruumsh nearly beat Corellon despite being 3 Divine Levels lower. It's more about Sphere vs Multi-Sphere Gods

In my defense, I only said that because that's how we treated it to my knowledge.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Is there profiles on the player ? Like the player that we create

We thought about doing it before, the main issue has always been the magical abilities that the player would need access to that would make the profile rather hard to make.

 

[Zeitgeist77]

They're all on the cosmology and Tier 2/1 Blogs.

• The Material Plane is infinite in size which contains an infinite number of alternate universes
• The Abyss which contains an infinite number of realms with different space-times
• The part about Divine Levels isn't correct so to say. Gruumsh nearly beat Corellon despite being 3 Divine Levels lower. It's more about Sphere vs Multi-Sphere Gods
• The LoP never fought Orcus, it was a scene in Dead Gods where the PC's see this vision, but the narration states "The Lady of Pain can't be beaten in a simple brawl". Meaning that Orcus with the Last Words still cannot defeat or kill her. If you mean the Greater God stuff then its just Orcus saying a word and killing them
• Vecna resisting the Lady of Pain comes from Die Vecna Die
• The resistance thing comes from Zeus and Hera, where Zeus can block Hera's precog. Though like with Gruumsh it should be noted that its not an auto-bypass or anything, it just more likely than not that a stronger God can get through the resistances of weaker Gods.

Is it True that each layer of abyss has the same size of material plane?(infinite universes, infinite timelines)

 

[Qawsedf234]

Is it True that each layer of abyss has the same size of material plane?(infinite universes, infinite timelines)

It's infinite as in every plane is spatially infinite. No Outer Plane layer would be the size of a multiverse.

 

[444_OverTimeNights]

We thought about doing it before, the main issue has always been the magical abilities that the player would need access to that would make the profile rather hard to make.

Would the players basically have everything

 

[Qawsedf234]

Would the players basically have everything

By the time they're Immortals or Gods, yeah.

 

[444_OverTimeNights]

By the time they're Immortals or Gods, yeah.

Omg they can reach that level ? Do u have a sandbox or there’s literally no blog or anything pertaining to that

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Omg they can reach that level ? Do u have a sandbox or there’s literally no blog or anything pertaining to that

Composite Adventurer (Dungeons and Dragons)

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Severely incomplete (and will never be finished, as there's no point)

 

[Qawsedf234]

Severely incomplete (and will never be finished, as there's no point)

Also:

Composite DnD Class statistics

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[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Also:

Composite DnD Class statistics

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saved thanks

 

[444_OverTimeNights]

Composite Adventurer (Dungeons and Dragons)

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Severely incomplete (and will never be finished, as there's no point)

Do you have a link ? I’ll read up on it tbh and gather information card games are broken

 

[444_OverTimeNights]

saved thanks

Link as in where I can read up on their abilities myself