Who WITHOUT plot manipulation can resist Medaka's The Hero?

[Firephoenixearl]

Yeah doesn't make sense, that's exactly the reason Medaka Box has so many unknowns Ajimu included cus The Hero can just say no to anything at anytime in verse without explanation.

@ALRF

@Sandman31

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

And the moment you argued that the Hero is tier -1 plot manipulation was the moment you lost the final scraps of credibility you had left

 

[Firephoenixearl]

And the moment you argued that the Hero is tier -1 plot manipulation was the moment you lost the final scraps of credibility you had left

"that's not the one we use in here doe"

Y'all missed that part.

 

[Wokistan]

I don't think medaka would beat her writer even in verse. They're still the ones writing all that plot for her after all.

 

[Clockwork_Cookies]

What will can resist The Hero ? A true hero

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Licenseless_Rider

 

[Sir_Ovens]

What will can resist The Hero ? A true hero

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Licenseless_Rider

Beautiful.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

You got this all wrong...

Medaka is not 0 nor above in verse.

A real life dude who is the reason everything exists by thinking them and being a plane of existence beyond any fictional characters is STRONG. Unbeatably strong.

Medaka is not that real life dude. She is just that dude's finest creation. As i said "my waifu won't lose" then Rias takes on Hajun, because as the author of both i can make Rias win for the dumbest reason. That's the idea behind Medaka in verse.

But as i said "THAT IS NOT THE VERSION WE USE IN WIKI"

 

[SchroKatze]

Verse equalization can render The Hero useless against protagonists

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm still sticking with my Chowder answer.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Verse equalization can render The Hero useless against protagonists

Indeed.

1 exception is if the character can lose in verse.

Let's say Soma from Food Wars can fight somehow. He won't beat Medaka.

Cus Soma can and has lost in verse, Medaka doesn't have that.

Though yes if the protagonist is absolutely not allowed to win in verse then yes that applies.

 

[Clockwork_Cookies]

Haiz...let make this simple

The Hero isnt unbeatable, Devil Style were made to directly counter the Hero.

Devil Style (µäÜÞí®, Debiru Sutairu): Zenkichi's personal skill, created by Hanten.[427] Devil Style nullifies any coincidence; the skill prevents the whims of fate from interfering with a battle. Ajimu states that this ability is the opposite of a conventional main character; it degrades the hero, as they are usually just really lucky.[428] Ajimu labels Devil Style as an ability that will render all the main characters that came before Zenkichi relics of the past.[429] Because of Devil Style, Zenkichi is classed as neither a Plus nor a Minus, but rather as a Zero.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Ruby Rose stands a better chance at killing Medaka than Reinhard.

>Imagine that.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Every Legendary and Mythical Pokemon falls to Medaka

Pikachu wins

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Ruby Rose stands a better chance at killing Medaka than Reinhard.
>Imagine that.

IKR!

Though again, not the "in wiki" version.

Not ever character has The Hero in wiki, and neither does medaka have the acceptance of a real life *** with her.

Also there was a thread about "if every character could be wanked" or sth like that. And it was said that One Piece for example solos Medaka Box via having a bigger fandom.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Anyway all jokes aside. This thread was made way too soon. The Hero is currently in revision, so this question can't be answered. Otherwise if Ajimu gets a tier, anything below or = to her gets trashed automatically.

 

[SchroKatze]

MB should be completely banned from any kind of Vs Threads. The wankers are too stronk.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

any 5D

 

[Firephoenixearl]

any 5D

The only way to scale The Hero is from ajimu so we need to have at least a baseline for her first.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Wasn't she willingly affected?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Lowballing Ajimu, I'd say she has 4-D plot manip. It's literally the lowest form of plot manip you can go.

 

[Sandman31]

Ultra Comics uses the internets criticism to break down Medaka's textual concept

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Superman.

 

[The_Causality]

By logic, if the hero is unrestricted nobody can beat Medaka (only plot user)

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

In that scan, Retconn was incapable of making narrative adjustments to Superman, but they were able to do things like retcon all of reality wipe everything off of the Overvoid with their technology. I would think Superman should be able to resist it.

 

[Sandman31]

Yeah, Grant Morrisons plot bs is off the charts

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

By extension, Milkman Man should resist it as well. Take a moment to realise that a man named Milkman Man would resist the Hero and likely beat her, too.

 

[Sandman31]

Also Ahl, who's a platonic being that embodies the concept of superhero and is the symbolic ancestor of Superman

 

[JackJoyce]

Meh one roundhouse kick of Chuck Norris and the writer dies

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Oh, yeah. Ahl is beautiful.

 

[Sandman31]

Too bad we cant make a profile for them, I wouldve like to see 1-As getting stomped by Retconn workers lol

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Is this supposed to be like "People of a similar/non-infinitely greater tier who resist The Hero"? Because otherwise the obvious answer is "nearly everything Tier 2 and above".

If it's supposed to be people who aren't full-on cosmic entities, fourth key right here would be pretty damn low tier for "people who completely shrug off this ability".

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

The day we accepted a meta-fictional awareness and comment on plot armour as a legitamate Power was a dark time in the vs battle community.

We should just remove it.

 

[EvilMegaCookie]

4. Not being passive is the 1st step to failure. Even strong hax won't do shit via being...well not passive. Let's say Hiiragi vs Medaka with The Hero. Hiiragi says "imma not steal shit from her she's a good girl" gets 1 shotted.

You know someone is salty when they explicitly bring up a match that was an utter stomp because of how ridiculous Hiiragi is and making up some weird scenario where Hiiragi is no longer Hiiragi, making him go against his entire MO because...?

 

[Holyhotsauce]

*Revs Chainaxe*

 

[Agnaa]

I found the only real answer.

Koyomi Araragi for being the MC of a series by the same creator that he writes for leisure, rather than work; he prefers writing that story, meaning he'd prefer the MC of that story.