11-C
Good to know, guess the only way to find out if it's acceptable is to make a thread about it :v
Prove that
But how? The character who dreams the location is 5-D due to having R > F over the location. Then the location is 6-D due to seeing the character as fiction. And then the character still sees the location as a dream, which is now 7-D... repeat ad-infinitum, and that should be at least High 1-B, right?
I know that. It needs to be in the context of seeing a real low 2-C structure as mere fiction, which is the case here.
Kinda cringe if true :/
Idk the other verse you mentioned but infinitely transcending space-time to the point of viewing it as fiction is enough to qualify for higher dimensionality.
No, not really? 11-C is for 0-D stuff last I checked, the location I brought up is undeniably 4-D at minimum. It being infinitesimally small from a separate perspective doesn't mean it suddenly loses its dimensions of time and space, that isn't how R > F difference works.
Dimensionality is mostly removed from the tiering system now. being 4D is mostly irrelevent to it
Wrong you need to be uncountable infinite superior if i remember correct.
I meant that it's 4D in the sense that it's a space-time continuum that is low 2-C. It can't be 11-C because that'd be assuming it lacks any dimensions of time or space, which isn't true.
...Yes, and viewing a low 2-C structure as fiction is one of the primary examples of that infinite superiority. Like I know what counts as infinite superiority, the OP was based on the precedent of both the character and location in question having R > F transcendence over the other in an infinitely recursive fashion.
Alright.
I... Did you even read the tiering FAQ? Treating a low 2-C structure as literal fiction is straight up the first example listed for low 1-C qualifications. Like you're not technically wrong, because this only really applies in situations where universal+ or higher structures are involved, but this IS one of those situations so idk what point you're trying to make.
And there you go its not above Low 1-C then for the character
"4D space-times"
Alright i was kinda confused when you said 4d space time since it is already 4d by default so adding the word 4d is clearly unnecessary.
I never said it saw itself as fictional? I was just saying that there is literally no way to say it's tier 11 when it is, at bare minimum, low 2-C. The character infinitely transcends that 'bare minimum', which makes them low 1-C, then THAT character is transcended by the location, which is another layer of dimensionality... and there's no real end to this loop, making it high 1-B.
This honestly doesn't seem to have a tier or a unknown tier because it is clearly paradoxical.
Anyways by this logic it should be +♾ and -♾ or +-♾ im pretty sure there is a theorem that is like this called the extended real number line or something like that i should check later if the theorem was like that.
Hm, should it really be likely instead of possibly?
Are there any characters like this?
It kinda does
Refer to the above
R>F feats are automatically equated to uncountable infinite differences as a lowball on the site
"They can qualify, however, if said "higher plane" is defined as having a relationship of qualitative superiority over lower realms in one way or another, such as by perceiving them as literal fiction/unreality (or being comparatively more "real" in nature), encompassing them in an infinitesimal portion of itself, residing in a higher state of being altogether, and etc."
Some TES ones
iirc, it require more context than just dreaming
it is still.......................eh......................falling into: more context
TES is kinda insane on cosmology, cthulhu mythos i think can be considered in Dreaming department. reality - fiction is Umineko i think
Can you please at least tell us what is the context that's needed in this case?
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