Weiss Schnee Vs Gatomon

[Dragonmasterxyz]

No, just like instant (not passive) mind hax battles aren't (that's a decisive vs stomp debate right there). And she doesn't. It's one of two main skill alongside Lightning Paw. Regardless it is still a high chance of being her first move.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Instant mind hax battles are stomps though. A lot of instant mind hax matches were removed recently because of it.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Since when? Unless it's passive/sub-conscious, I was told it is fair game.

 

[Wokistan]

Yeah I don't think it works that way.

 

[Wokistan]

If the chance is less than 50 for mindhax Weiss can still pull off a win if she has a high enough winrate disregarding that.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The chance of mind hax is much much higher than 50% and thats not counting sleep hax or mind and soul destruction

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well, the chance is literally 50/50.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dragon If the chance is 50/50 then why did you word it that Gatomon always leads with mind hax?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I didn't say that tho?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

"Simply put. Cat's Eye make's it so that she does all that too her self. It's literally on of Gatomon's main moves, so it is by no means out of character for a Gatomon to go lolCat'sEye."

"Nothing Weiss does stops Cat's Eye. All of Weiss' moves require activation and movement. All Gatomon has to do is look at her."

"AP Advantage + Cat's Eye + Idle Bubble + Mind and Soul attacks. Weiss is versatile, but all that versatility gets cut short the moment Gatomon uses Cat's Eye. "

Mmmmmm yeah you did

 

[Wokistan]

If it's 50/50 Weiss incons with 100% winrate in scenarios with no mindhax. Otherwise, goes to Cat in Spanish-mon.

 

[Wokistan]

That doesn't imoly he always starts on that, just that it's not ooc and a thing he frequently uses. A 50/50 chance is pretty frequent.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If the odds are 50/50 then this is inconclusive, 50% of the time Gatomon instahaxes with Cats Eye, the other 50% Weiss takes this via everything else

 

[Wokistan]

Of course, he also could have just misremembered one of the times.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Now where did I say, she always starts with it? You asked me what defense she had for Weiss' abilities. And I mentioned Cat's Eye. My argument is based off of Cat's Eye simply because she can literally pull it out at anytime.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also, you are assuming that if Gatomon does not start with Cat's Eye, that's it. You forget that even in a scenario she doesn't start with it, she in character will still utilize it mid battle.

 

[Schnee_One]

Since when? Unless it's passive/sub-conscious, I was told it is fair game.

Considering literally all of Star Wars yes they are

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Wasn't it more that, Matt told people that these guys don't all start with mindhax? I wouldn't know. That would mean Grimmon's matches need to go.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Garg A lot of star wars matches were removed recently because of it

 

[Schnee_One]

@Garg A lot of star wars matches were removed recently because of it

What?

When?

Or are you mistaking it for Nihilus matches?

 

[Wokistan]

Yeah weekly I think you're thinking of nihilus. Otherwise the likes of White Face, Ahriman, Nicol Bolas etc don't have matches.

 

[Schnee_One]

Just checked

It's only Nihilus and Vitiate which are passives, not because the mindscrew first

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

bump

My vote is for Gatomon btw.

 

[Schnee_One]

Gatomon for reasons above

 

[Theglassman12]

Gatomon should take this for the reasons stated above.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Pretty good. Gatomon should take this FRA.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Gatomon FRA

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Gatomon for Dragon's reasons.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Tailmon FRA

 

[Schnee_One]

Close and add at will

Blake is next

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

>Blake is next

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