My analogy hinged on the idea of Warp Stars having a function to accelerate faster than usual, and I interpreted the movement in midair to the left as acceleration that reached immeasurable speed once Kirby and his Warp Star disappeared. If Warp Stars having an acceleration function is non-canon, then my revision proposal should be rejected. I anticipate the following paragraph isn't enough evidence of it being canon, but I may as well post it now that I've gone through the effort.
To note, the ridiculousness of a steering wheel-less and buttonless vehicle not having that acceleration function is not a factor. But yes, it doesn't have that as a function. It can be used to move around slowly as if walking, faster, and at peak speed, but all the proof shows that there isn't anything higher than that.
With how frequent MFTL+ feats are in this series, how frequently Warp Stars are visually depicted to us as fast, and how the series isn't shy to make Warp Stars able to dimensional travel, warp space, and do nonsense through movement, I still find it odd that Mr. Sakurai believes people had forgotten Warp Stars can "warp" if he defined "warp" as teleportation or general extreme speed, rather than speed that is unbound by time.
Well, that means nothing. People can forget a character can break the 4th wall, or has super strength, or can sense presences, regardless of how prevalent the displays of everything may be. People not into Vs Debates are like that, it's the most normal thing in the world.
I suppose, this is the core of my revision proposal: It's technically a possibility that Warp Stars have always had a speed level unbound by time that Mr. Sakurai thought of as an extra level of "warp" speed, but the canon feats of "warp" speed don't inherently imply immeasurable speed in the slightest by our standards and he prioritized the portrayal we've come to know Warp Stars better for, with him only clarifying the acceleration function's extent and/or existence later. This led to the extra level of speed not getting canonically utilized in a meaningful immeasurable -evident way as the series progressed, hence why it's considered as forgotten, but this doesn't stop it from possibly just existing in canon via word of mouth from Mr. Sakurai.
Furthermore, Warp Stars can either by controlled by their users or moved by themselves, and when the latter happens, they seem to know what the users want. So if Warp Stars were that fast, they would use that speed when the users needs to hurry, dodge attacks, or reach enemies. That's another way in which this breaks down, since again, the Warp Star in Smash reacted to its own speed by moving away from the planet, dodging the rays of light, and coming back to a planet.
Being an unlikely, contradicted interpretation does stop it from being possible.
I have some ideas describing the top speed of Superman and Sonic in a more believable way, but I don't want to stray away from the original topic.
Dead ends like that are part of the rabbit hole of using examples from other franchises, to note.
If you were to instead make the point about them reacting to their own speed as a primary idea against the feat being immeasurable, without presenting what you told me here, the revision proposal would probably be rejected based on the part of the Speed page I presented earlier.
I don't think so, I think you misunderstood that text;
"often leads to inconsistencies and has been done via FTL travel or running laps around the earth faster than it rotates." Let's assume the "inconsistencies" are immeasurable speed, ok, even if they might not be. "and has been done via FTL travel or running laps around the earth" is an alternative to it, meaning that you can time travel like that
without immeasurable speed. The speed page is telling you that right there. The wording is kinda sh*t, granted.
"This
can lead to characters being assigned an additional, independent, speed rating for the ability." means a potentiality, not a mandatory necessity. Meaning that you, again, can have time travel feats like that without immeasurable speed.
What I'm getting at is, for consistency's sake, the point about Kirby and/or the Warp Star needing to react to their own speed to stop at the right time being a means to disprove the idea that Warp Stars can reach an immeasurable extra level of speed should be supplementary to the other factors, rather than its own entire factor of equal worth to the others.
It's not something you have proven. And that's assuming they only reacted when they stopped moving, when they would be reacting as they essentially circle their way back to that planet, or find the planet in which they went, and dodge the rays of light that covered the universe from the planet they just leaved.
Concerning the part I quoted from the Speed page in my last message: When the VS Battles Wiki allows characters to receive an immeasurable speed rating that's separate from their normal and more consistent level of speed when they perform a feat of traveling to different time periods through movement by FTL travel or zooming laps around the Earth faster than it rotates, it provokes questions about their reaction speed.
See above, I was correct then.
Immeasurable speed is pretty much "infinite speed across space+ infinite speed during time travel," an infinitely more complex method of time travel than just, moving faster than light. Please don't act as if being unbound by time to that such infinite degree is more likely as than, going fast enough to mold time in which a way that you time travel into a specific point in time, because that's infinitely less likely (by 2 degrees rather than 1 even). A slight alteration of anything is no proof of complete transcendence over all its qualities, a slight alteration of anything just means a slight alteration of anything. Thus, any time travel feat, even if done via movement, only means it's a time travel feat, not Immeasurable speed without proof of it. The mechanics behind it can be a million different things, don't get too carried away by how someone with Immeasurable speed would very much be able to move & time travel at once.
