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WandaVision MCU Spoiler Discussion Thread

We should probably start wrapping up what abilities are getting added and start talking about how we're gonna go about this CRT soon.
 
We're probably gonna need to use shots from the show itself for the profile renders because the posters are absolute garbage for profiles given the fact that they're all covered in televisions.
 
I think the Agatha abilities stuff is really good. Although I would have replaced Summoning with Limited Creation (Can make objects appear out of nowhere). Also, undoing Wanda's charm on the townspeople is simply a variation of Mind Manipulation as she nullified her control over their it I believe. Unholy isn't necessary I think, all that's needed is to say "Magic (Is a practitioner of Dark Magic)".
 
We're probably gonna need to use shots from the show itself for the profile renders because the posters are absolute garbage for profiles given the fact that they're all covered in televisions.
I actually think Agatha's poster is quite good (unlike most others). At least we can use it as a pic for her Agnes personna and use another peak for her witch appearence.
 
Her Agnes persona isn't her usual character so there'd be no need to use a special image for that personality.
Someone can make a link to it if they know how but marvel has this high quality of Agatha harkness
 
We can just put a tabber with her Agnes form (after all she was aware of what was happening all the time and actively altered details in Westview so it's not like she was enthralled) and her real form.
 
Unholy Manip should be there. She's heavily implied to read and use spells from the Darkhold (Dark arts), which is "the book of the damned." Sounds pretty unholy to me. I was even considering putting unholy manip on Wanda's list, but I decided to wait on that until we see more of her in about a year when she's read through the darkhold.
 
The link was broken but it worked when I reloaded it
 
Agnes has no definitive outfit anyways. They literally change every episode. There's just flat out no need for Agatha to have renders for her Agnes personality.

I found a pick of Agatha in her usual attire with her full body shown. I sent it to the Image renders request thread.
 
Using renders of Agatha is a no brainer I thought we were already doing that instead of Agnes
 
Arkham didn't you just have a link to a render of Agatha
 
Illusion Creation can also work with feat when Wanda tries to trap Agatha in an illusion of her trial and Agatha turned it against her.
 
That was heavily implied to be a mind battle and not an illusion. We even see Wanda do the classic mind manip gestures that she did to the Avengers in AoU
 
Wasn't that an illusion to begin with? Pretty sure everything she showed to the Avengers were illusions (barring Natasha tough).
 
Alright then.

Does she have any particulary notable feat overall, outside of tanking a car, destroying a community center and lifting several SWORD soldiers in the air? Cause I can't remember and it's possible I've missed some things.
 
She blasted the utter shit out of Wanda, who has at least 9-C dura. She clearly did harm Wanda and pretty much all her blasts were casual as shit.
 
9-C would be the absolute bare minimum, but its clearly way too low for her character. It's probably better to just put unknown
 
I think just from Wanda taking attacks should boost her base without magic as in her her own her physicality, even Dr strange is at wall level and Wanda did at least have some feats taking blasts I think at least with her physical dura wouldn't be the stretch to say she's wall level especially since we got the statement that she surpasses a sorcerer supreme even though that's for magic.
 
I honestly think Agatha will simply be Unknown.
And I agree with this, we should have her feats listed from surviving the car and blowing up the center but mention she only absorbed magic from Wanda and didn't do any severe damage when she attacked Wanda otherwise.
 
9-C would be the absolute bare minimum, but its clearly way too low for her character. It's probably better to just put unknown
Shame the character didn't have that much to do. I mean, Agatha was cool and displayed many powers but her time was too short and she appeared too late to really develop her, including in terms of powers and feats. Still good but could have been better.
 
Well Wanda did say to Agatha that if she's needed she knows where to find her. She also said "I'll be visiting you Agnes." I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if we see her pop up in Doc Strange 2.

A lot of the WV characters will be likely returning within the next couple of years assuming Disney is on schedule with the new dates they've given. We heard the screams of Billy and Tommy in the post credits and we know Monica is set to play a big role in Cap Marvel 2. Multiverse of Madness is set for release in March 2022 and we know Wanda has a 99.999% chance to show up there. Captain Marvel comes in November 2022 and Monica is sure to show up.

No clue what they plan to do with White Vision but we know he flew off and is out in the open. Hayward is arrested and in prison so its not like Vision can be tracked or anything.
 
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her character is definitely not entirely wasted at all she's going to bring stuff to the future of Phase 4 if not beyond
 
Don't really think she will but that would be cool. Now Wanda has an experienced witch she can force to help her to get a better understanding of Magic and even basic spells at her disposal in addition to having access to the Darkhold. Can't wait to see her in DS 2 (arguably the only part of the MCU that interests me by now with Loki series).
 
Considering all the chaos Wanda has caused it's only a matter of time until Baron Mordo shows up in Doctor Strange MoM to try and fail to depower her and then he'll summon the final boss of that film as a last resort.

Either Mep, Nightmare, Shuma or Dorm could easily fit that role well imo.
 
her character is definitely not entirely wasted at all she's going to bring stuff to the future of Phase 4 if not beyond
I wouldn't say she was wasted, she had pretty good moments and the reveal was good. But I think she wasn't really developped and she appeared a little too late in the series to have a real impact (as a character I mean, she has huge impact for the MCU as a whole but as a character, she isn't exceptional).
 
Considering all the chaos Wanda has caused it's only a matter of time until Baron Mordo shows up in Doctor Strange MoM to try and fail to depower her and then he'll summon the final boss of that film as a last resort.

Either Mep, Nightmare, Shuma or Dorm could easily fit that role well imo.
Do we know if Mordo will be in the second movie? Cause the last time I heard something about Multiverse of Madness, it was about Nightmare being the big bad (and possibly played by Eva Green...wich I would love to see).
I also hope they will bring back Dormmamu one day. And I would love to see Shuma Gorath. That would put the MCU to a whole new level of power.
 
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