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Vtubers discussion thread



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Is anyone here going to make a Hololive profile based on official lores?

Also what do you guys consider as official lores aside from lore videos, debut lore, and official biography of holomems? Do lores from holomems MV count as official lores?

If anyone is going to make a Hololive profile based on official lores, is it going to be separated according to their branch/gen or connected altogether?
 
Is anyone here going to make a Hololive profile based on official lores?

Also what do you guys consider as official lores aside from lore videos, debut lore, and official biography of holomems? Do lores from holomems MV count as official lores?

If anyone is going to make a Hololive profile based on official lores, is it going to be separated according to their branch/gen or connected altogether?
The problem with using "official lore" is that you'd need consistency, relevant feats and canonicity to do that. Barely any Holo Talents ever talk about or expand their lore, which makes it undesirable to focus on their streamer lore, unless there's really something. There's also the headache of "what counts as lore" in the first place. Does a ramdom lore rambling in a collab count? Do MVs count? If so, which ones? Is there even a thread connecting them? If an illustrator adds lore to their VTuber, does that count, or is it rejected because it's not "official"?
I'm personally of the opinion that there are too many issues in trying to use "official VTuber lore". A lot of it would come from streams, which I'm fairly certain is a no-no as a source on the website. Finally, some time ago, there was a lot of discussion around the Professional Wrestling verse and to what extent personas should count when making profiles. In the end, a large number of profiles got removed.
 
The problem with using "official lore" is that you'd need consistency, relevant feats and canonicity to do that. Barely any Holo Talents ever talk about or expand their lore, which makes it undesirable to focus on their streamer lore, unless there's really something. There's also the headache of "what counts as lore" in the first place. Does a ramdom lore rambling in a collab count? Do MVs count? If so, which ones? Is there even a thread connecting them? If an illustrator adds lore to their VTuber, does that count, or is it rejected because it's not "official"?
I'm personally of the opinion that there are too many issues in trying to use "official VTuber lore". A lot of it would come from streams, which I'm fairly certain is a no-no as a source on the website. Finally, some time ago, there was a lot of discussion around the Professional Wrestling verse and to what extent personas should count when making profiles. In the end, a large number of profiles got removed.
What if we just use official lores from hololive such as Prelude and Omen, and holomem's official biography while ignoring all streams and twitter lores? Would that work?

Though if that's the case then only Council would have enough official lore to be scaled.
 
The problem is that HoloLore is hella inconsistent as well. Calli has like 3 backstories with EnReco only stirring the pot even more.
Then start with the most consistent one, Council's lore.

Council's official lore alone (Prelude, Omen, Council's official biography) makes them at least Low 1-A, possibly 1-A for Sana, Kronii, Fauna, and Mumei, while Bae is at least 1-A, possibly 1 layer above baseline.
 
Then start with the most consistent one, Council's lore.

Council's official lore alone (Prelude, Omen, Council's official biography) makes them at least Low 1-A, possibly 1-A for Sana, Kronii, Fauna, and Mumei, while Bae is at least 1-A, possibly 1 layer above baseline.
That alone barely answers anything. You get vague shots and/or narration for "Possibly Tier X" and a handful of abilities... and then what? You can't get values for the other stats, there isn’t all that much to go of off, and leaving it up to assumptions is unlikely to pass.
And that's without taking into account the reworked lore, which nearly completely drops the "being avatars" thing.
 
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