Voldemort fights his rapey counterpart (voldemort vs zouken)

[RethPo]

After killing kirei, voldemort decides to challenge another hgw contender who is attempting to steal his latest shot at immortality.
Fight takes place just outside the matou household at midnight with speed equal. Both have prior knowledge of the others abilities, sba otherwise.
Should be fair since zouk can kill voldy and voldy has aoe fire attacks and some other curses to kill zouk.
Battle music

Stick magic: 2 (gendolfgg1, franstel)
Worm magic:
Chris hansen with a flamethrower and infinity gauntlet:

 

[Gendolfgg1]

Voldemort can try to read minds and attack at an unexpected moment with Avada Kedavra. Legilimency gives a great advantage in this battle

 

[RethPo]

Voldemort can try to read minds and attack at an unexpected moment with Avada Kedavra. Legilimency gives a great advantage in this battle

Depends, he has telepath and mind resistence on his profile which for fate characters im pretty sure is 4D. Idk too much about how avada kedavra works beyond being a killing curse but im guessing zouk would still die if the worm containing his soul is caught in the blast.

I still think that volds fire spells are his best advantage though since fire is a hard counter to insect magic and can take out and defend against swarms zouken would try to send.

 

[Franstel]

Isn't Voldemort 8-C and Zouken 9-A ? Plus we don't even have any battle feat for Zouken so he will be probably continuously get beaten up until Voldemort land a blow. It's pretty much a stomp.

 

[RethPo]

Isn't Voldemort 8-C and Zouken 9-A ? Plus we don't even have any battle feat for Zouken so he will be probably continuously get beaten up until Voldemort land a blow. It's pretty much a stomp.

Voldemort is 9-B physically, high 8-C to 8-A with magic. Zouken is capable of quickly killing a 9-A with his worms in a bad end, and while physically weak, he can handle his body being blown apart by servants like rider and archer and simply disband into a swarm of insects to escape at any time or summon more of them. Also hes a powerful magus capable of fighting toe to toe with this guy for a while and is stated to be ten times an average third rate magus

Zoukens wincon is trapping voldy with his worms and killing him (note that being outside the matou house gives zouk all of his worms and home ground at his disposal immediately, and he is still extremely cunning and smart), while voldys is destroying zouken until he just runs out of them or cant sustain his body and gets incapped or his soul is destroyed. Its not a stomp. More just whoevers gonna strategize best and pull off their wincon. Ill count above me as votes for now

 

[Gendolfgg1]

I still think that volds fire spells are his best advantage though since fire is a hard counter to insect magic and can take out and defend against swarms zouken would try to send.

Well, then Tom can use Hellfire and create a fire serpent that will attack Zouken on its own. He can also evade attacks by passing into a spiritual-mental existence (remember how he possessed Harry, evaporating into thin air?)

 

[RethPo]

bumppp

 

[Violetcyanide]

Zouken should probably be high 6-c,the guy fought and killed alive Francesca and killed Sasaki in hf.

He also has a massive advantage in speed since only combat speed gets equalised and not reaction speed.(his reaction speed should also be ftl)

 

[RethPo]

Zouken should probably be high 6-c,the guy fought and killed alive Francesca and killed Sasaki in hf.

He also has a massive advantage in speed since only combat speed gets equalised and not reaction speed.(his reaction speed should also be ftl)

Sasaki was killed by the shadow, not zouken. Francesca doesnt have a profile but yes. The worms and zouks body dont have large island durability anyway and can kill and be killed by voldemort the same way as when theyre 9-a.

For starters, ftl would just replace his current mhs. Second, fates mages normally have subsonic running speed with both reactions and combat speed being ftl which would be equalized. It just doesnt list combat on his profile for some reason.

 

[John985]

Francesca doesnt have a profile

She have a profile.

True Caster

True Caster is the "True" Caster-class Servant of Francesca Prelati in the True and False Holy Grail Wars of Fate/strange fake. Caster's True Name is François Prelati, an Italian cleric from the 15th century who was a close friend of Gilles de Rais. He was also a magus who was involved in black...

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[Gendolfgg1]

Zouken should probably be high 6-c,the guy fought and killed alive Francesca and killed Sasaki in hf.

He also has a massive advantage in speed since only combat speed gets equalised and not reaction speed.(his reaction speed should also be ftl)

However, Voldemort has spells that don't have a projectile and obviously can't be dodged. And I don't think Tom should lag behind in reaction and combat speed.

 

[RethPo]

She have a profile.

True Caster

True Caster is the "True" Caster-class Servant of Francesca Prelati in the True and False Holy Grail Wars of Fate/strange fake. Caster's True Name is François Prelati, an Italian cleric from the 15th century who was a close friend of Gilles de Rais. He was also a magus who was involved in black...

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So alive francesca basically is alive francois which... would explain how zouken can kill them since 9-B. Yeah high 6-C isnt on the table here and if it is, itd be in a seperate ctr. The only time in lore hes suggested as remotely servant level is wog saying he could beat one in his prime (hundreds of years back) under ideal conditions which doesnt tell us much here.

 

[Violetcyanide]

Sasaki was killed by the shadow, not zouken.

Ho he didn't ,it was zouken who killed him,if the shadow killed him it would have devoured his body.

There is a reason zouken ran away when the shadow interrupted his fight against emiya.he has zero control over it.

For starters, ftl would just replace his current mhs. Second, fates mages normally have subsonic running speed with both reactions and combat speed being ftl which would be equalized. It just doesnt list combat on his profile for some reason.

Ah no.magi only get ftl reactions not combat speed since they only barely react to servant and instantly get folded when a servant takes the fight seriously.

However, Voldemort has spells that don't have a projectile and obviously can't be dodged. And I don't think Tom should lag behind in reaction and combat speed.

The only spell that is even a problem is the firestorm with aoe.anything else zouken just shrugs off due to resistance or just transfers to a one of the millions of bugs in his entire house.

So alive francesca basically is alive francois which... would explain how zouken can kill them since 9-B. Yeah high 6-C isnt on the table here and if it is, itd be in a seperate ctr.

Considering she has high 6-c with prep and zouken kept her at bay for 10 years from 4th holy grail war to 5th means he absolutely scale to that.

The only time in lore hes suggested as remotely servant level is wog saying he could beat one in his prime (hundreds of years back) under ideal conditions which doesnt tell us much here.

There are plenty of character who scale to high 6-c despite being nowhere near servant level.

 

[RethPo]

Ho he didn't ,it was zouken who killed him,if the shadow killed him it would have devoured his body.

The shadow did devour his body after it killed him and assassin hatched out. Watch the first heavens feel movie nearly an hour in. It even says on the wiki the shadow killed him and in the novel that they saw a shadow kill him.

Ah no.magi only get ftl reactions not combat speed since they only barely react to servant and instantly get folded when a servant takes the fight seriously.

Most magi can fight and react to other magi though, and zoukens insects would count as combat speeds wouldnt they?

Considering she has high 6-c with prep and zouken kept her at bay for 10 years from 4th holy grail war to 5th means he absolutely scale to that.

That at absolute best would give him prep on that level. But again this higher tier stuff that isnt on his profile is kinda derailing.

 

[RethPo]

bump incase anyone still care

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Depends, he has telepath and mind resistence on his profile which for fate characters im pretty sure is 4D.

They are 4D resistances.

Idk too much about how avada kedavra works beyond being a killing curse but im guessing zouk would still die if the worm containing his soul is caught in the blast.

Well, Zouken has 4D resistance to death manipulation.

The worm containing his soul is also within Sakura, who is presumably not anywhere near the fight right now.

 

[RethPo]

The worm containing his soul is also within Sakura, who is presumably not anywhere near the fight right now.

I always thought it was more like having multiple different bodies with part of his soul with sakura just being the main one.
You probably know but just incase, destroying zouks main bodies is still an incap win for voldy for the same reason why zouk and other chars dont have to hunt down the horcruxes.

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