Vision (Marvel) CRT

[soulusboy]

Currently, Vision is rated as High 6-A. I think Vision should be upgraded to "at least 5-A, possibly higher" based on his feats. This tiering keeps him in line with the rest of Marvel scaling.

Feats:

Consistently shown as capable of fighting and taking attacks from Ultron (At least 5-A, likely 4-B) 1 2 3 4

Consistently shown as capable of fighting Wonder Man (5-A) 1 2

Keeps up with Silver Surfer and the surfer says his power is comparable to his own( 5-A, 4-B at peak) 1

Takes out the Avengers including Thor (Jane Foster), Doctor Strange, Iron Man, Captain Marvel, Spectrum, and Nova 1 2 3 4 (at least a 5-A feat). This could also be a speed feat since the avengers range from massively hypersonic to MFTL.

Takes an attack from Annihilus (5-A) 1

Tanks an attack from Moonstone (5-A) 1

Can take attacks from and harm Count Nefaria (At least 5-A) 1 2

 

[Confluctor]

I agree.

He also has feats of fighting against Hyperion who is solid planet buster. Also he fought the Hulk once or twice iirc.

 

[The_Impress]

Seems fine.

Although doesn't Vision go through like, a **** ton of models and upgrades? Shouldn't he have more keys for them?

 

[soulusboy]

Seems fine.

Although doesn't Vision go through like, a **** ton of models and upgrades? Shouldn't he have more keys for them?

From everything I've seen, unless I missed something, all of these are the same Vision. White Vision has all the same parts as Vision and thus should not be treated differently except for his lack of emotion because he lacks wonder man's brain waves. (Jonas) Vision is treated by marvel as a separate character so nothing here uses him.

 

[soulusboy]

It also occurred to me that Vision entered the house of ideas and defeated Nyx so his classification might actually need to read "at least 5-A, possibly higher. 1-A inside of the House of Ideas" but that might be reaching.

 

[Confluctor]

Yeah I don't think that would ever get accepted. Plus I think Ant said that we shouldn't give temporary amps/power up a key.

 

[The_Impress]

From everything I've seen, unless I missed something, all of these are the same Vision. White Vision has all the same parts as Vision and thus should not be treated differently except for his lack of emotion because he lacks wonder man's brain waves. (Jonas) Vision is treated by marvel as a separate character so nothing here uses him.

Meh, I'll conduct my own research some other day, I do think he goes through an evolution in power

It also occurred to me that Vision entered the house of ideas and defeated Nyx so his classification might actually need to read "at least 5-A, possibly higher. 1-A inside of the House of Ideas" but that might be reaching.

...it's like, one issue key, and unlike Nyx he barely does anything once he's in.

 

[Cropfist]

I agree with this.

 

[LordTracer]

I also agree with this.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I agree with the upgrade

 

[Hellbeast]

I’m down with the upgrade, never got why he didn’t scale

 

[Antvasima]

This seems to make sense to me.

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What do you think about this?

 

[Antvasima]

Sorry. LordTracer and Confluctor were already here.

 

[Eficiente]

I like the idea of separating things based on models and upgrades rather than to give a thumbs up to a number of showings of scaling, just because it's Marvel.

So, I await some of the crazy organization that needs.

 

[Newendigo]

He definetly goes through changes, I particularly recall him gaining nanotechnology in one of his recent (And by this I mean, 2010s age) upgrades.

Also note that he got heavily damaged from a blast of Ultron in that comparatively recent comic scan from 90s-2000s (going off the art), and him defeating a injured Count Nefaria (Who's power varies depending on energy absorbed, btw) shouldn't be used for scaling purposes.

Is also necessary for you to cite all the issues from which those feats come from.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out with input.

The Vision has probably been continuously upgraded over time, but unlike for Iron Man, it has not been done in a continuously visually distinctive manner.

 

[Qawsedf234]

As a thing, I don't like the way you're using "Consistently". Consistently would be preforming roughly the same over different issues and different authors. Thor and Hulk are consistently shown to be physically comparable to each other for example. Or Superman is consistently shown to be physically stronger than Wonder Woman. Most of these are just showings from a single comic.

As for the thread I'm not approving anything without a source key, as stated before.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out Qawsedf234.