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Not even close.Js250476 said:
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"via powerscaling" reasoning in profiles
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Actually yes, if you punch with a ton of tnt, youre gonna need that durability so your arm doesn't splatter or break vua recoil.
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Why shouldn't that logic be used? It's acceptable when the character has no feats or statements showing their durability is lower/higher than their AP.Magi RobloxG said:
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It depends on the situation really.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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That has been accepted for ages, Magi. You ain't gonna change that here.
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Not really man, almost 99% of all cases of physical fighters, they gave equal dura and ap otherwise they would break their own body with every attack.
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Never said I was suggesting on changing it.Saikou The Lewd King said:
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Newton's Third Law of Motion. You can't punch something with X force without enduring X force.
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I agree with this, I would atleast say they should say which character they scale to. Even if they dont have to break down the full web right there.
Or perhaps scaling pages could be made?
Or perhaps scaling pages could be made?
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@TheJ-Man already mentioned that (in an example ofc).Matthew Schroeder said:
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I definitely agree with this. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mayuri_Kurotsuchi is another example. "Tier: At least 8-A | At least 8-A, possibly higher | Likely 7-A via power-scaling"
to whom, exactly?
to whom, exactly?
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Other than that, I agree that the powerscaling is gonna need a little more work.
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This has actually been getting on my nerves for quite some time. Whole heartedly agreeing with this as well.
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Agree.
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I think that this is a good idea. Does anybody have a suggestion for how the editing rule should be worded?
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-Kindly do not add simple reasoning such as "via powerscaling." with nothing else. It should be elaborated with specific feats/scaling to other characters on why they are of that stat.
How is that?
EDIT: IkaniL ninja'd me.
How is that?
EDIT: IkaniL ninja'd me.
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I think making it a solid rule is a bit extreme it should just be heavily recomended.
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I thought that we didn't use that here because fiction tends to forget it?Matthew Schroeder said:
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Dont even know why powerscaling is a reason, if theyre a tier because they powerscale off a certain character just say theyre comparable/stronger than said character for example instead of via powerscaling without even linking to the character they scale off.
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It really should be taken on a case by case basis on whether a character or feat should be linked. In cases where only a single character is being powerscaled from another character that made the feat, just linking the character or possibly the feat should be fine.
However, in cases where multiple characters are all scaled from a single character who made the feat in question, it would probably be better that the direct feat be linked along with the character.
However, in cases where multiple characters are all scaled from a single character who made the feat in question, it would probably be better that the direct feat be linked along with the character.
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I think this would have been easier if the character tiering list wasn't forbidden. Now it became harder going through all the characters of a verse to find what/who it scales to instead of going through the hierarchy on the verse page. But then reputation and image amongst insignificant noobs takes precendence. There may be a rule but what are we going to do with all the countless pre-existing ones?
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Perhaps something like this?
"Do not add "via powerscaling" as a justification for profile statistics. It should be elaborated with specific feats/scaling to other characters regarding why they have a certain rating."
I am not quite satisfied with the wording, and am open for improvements though.
"Do not add "via powerscaling" as a justification for profile statistics. It should be elaborated with specific feats/scaling to other characters regarding why they have a certain rating."
I am not quite satisfied with the wording, and am open for improvements though.
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Okay:
"Kindly do not add "via powerscaling" as a justification for profile statistics. It should be elaborated with specific feats/scaling to other characters regarding why the profile in question has a certain rating."
"Kindly do not add "via powerscaling" as a justification for profile statistics. It should be elaborated with specific feats/scaling to other characters regarding why the profile in question has a certain rating."
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Finding the original feat should always be easy.
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True. For a lot of profiles I have created or cleaned up where the character scales from a physical strength/striking feat, I make sure to add "Should be able to withstand the forces of their own physical strikes" in durability.Matthew Schroeder said:
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Christ this is like all of the MK pages
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This is generally true with physical fighters regardless of verse. However, we also have to go on a case by case basis and look for special cases where this logic may or may not apply.Magi RobloxG said:
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I support this idea
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WilliamShadow is familiar with the verse. If you message him the list of problem profiles, I'm sure he could fix it.UcHuman said:
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DIgimon, Fairy Tail, Kingdom Hearts, King of Fighters, Dragon Ball and Guilty Gear powerscaling is fine.
Street Fighter powerscaling only problem is that [Small Town level+] Chun-Li is a top tier, so those who are much weaker than her are Small Town level.
Mortal Kombat problem is that they are scaled from Bi-Han defeating Fujin and Shinnok, but Raiden retconned the events in the new timeline saying that he fought their forces and not that he fought them. Raiden did not wanted to fight his former revenant friends so he took attacks from then and shocked all them when he had no choice. Cage also oneshotted Smoke and Quan Chi and Kotal Kahn had some PIS moments in the story.
Tekken powerscaling is bad because Devil Jin didn't oneshot the Forest. And almost everyone is else is much below the Mishima full power.
Matt is handling God of War and Devil May Cry Powerscaling while i'm handling Eathbound, Pokémon, Tekken and Sonic powerscaling.
Naruto, Bleach and Hellsing have terrible powerscaling, which needs a complete revision of the verse.
Street Fighter powerscaling only problem is that [Small Town level+] Chun-Li is a top tier, so those who are much weaker than her are Small Town level.
Mortal Kombat problem is that they are scaled from Bi-Han defeating Fujin and Shinnok, but Raiden retconned the events in the new timeline saying that he fought their forces and not that he fought them. Raiden did not wanted to fight his former revenant friends so he took attacks from then and shocked all them when he had no choice. Cage also oneshotted Smoke and Quan Chi and Kotal Kahn had some PIS moments in the story.
Tekken powerscaling is bad because Devil Jin didn't oneshot the Forest. And almost everyone is else is much below the Mishima full power.
Matt is handling God of War and Devil May Cry Powerscaling while i'm handling Eathbound, Pokémon, Tekken and Sonic powerscaling.
Naruto, Bleach and Hellsing have terrible powerscaling, which needs a complete revision of the verse.
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Honestly I think Naruto's scailing is kinda the hardest. If you take Itachi as example, he has many persons that have more raw power than he does, but he still beats them even with easy that might confuse someone when he is scaled lower.
Than a profile like Shisui. Like why is it made in the first place. No feats no nothing to scale him with unless we use his Susano and scale it with Sasuke's incomplete Susano and we should likely Scale Itachi's Susano on the same way or likely even complete Susano for Itachi i think as he had it for quite sometime and it it's similar to Sauske's complete mode.
Than we got Amaterasu where honestly i think every Amaterasu should be scaled on the same lvl.
Like only with that we have quite a lot of complications.
Than a profile like Shisui. Like why is it made in the first place. No feats no nothing to scale him with unless we use his Susano and scale it with Sasuke's incomplete Susano and we should likely Scale Itachi's Susano on the same way or likely even complete Susano for Itachi i think as he had it for quite sometime and it it's similar to Sauske's complete mode.
Than we got Amaterasu where honestly i think every Amaterasu should be scaled on the same lvl.
Like only with that we have quite a lot of complications.
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