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Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)

Sukuna's WCS is FTL with 20 megatons divine flame now. Kaneki did not have the prior knowledge of this. Kaneki also got rela upgrades as well. I think that's enough to say the match can be removed and a new one can be created.
What difference does the WCS speed make if it's an invisible cut? I already said that moving 20 meters away from the explosion is enough to avoid serious damage
 
And novel Dio has 1-A Plot hax
Wtf 😭

bro...thats not the reason why the match should be removed
its because of stands being MFTL in speed = matches...yeah 1-A plot hax too
We can also add that too.

Plus Lucoa having no knowledge on Dio and her weakness literally stating
Weaknesses: She is a pacifist and thus will avoid combat if at all possible.
So she isn't even going to bother to fight
 
Goated right 😳
 
Goated right 😳
WHAT. Nah remove that match 😭
 
moving 20 meters away? Sukuna nuked the entire city, i don't think moving 20m is going to cut it
It's still an explosion, and its shockwave weakens with distance. Moreover, the amount of energy depends on the cross-sectional area. Kaneki will absorb much less energy than 7-B
 

Isamu's AP got upgraded and now he can nearly one shot Geats.
 

Isamu's AP got upgraded and now he can nearly one shot Geats.
Ain’t that mf got a desire amp? What’s the problem
 

Isamu's AP got upgraded and now he can nearly one shot Geats.
Gets gets to that new AP value immediately lmfao
 

Isamu's AP got upgraded and now he can nearly one shot Geats.
Did you even read Geats's reasoning? His level automatically rises to match his opponent's instantly.
 
Whats Adams wincon?

If he used his axe (which he will) the stand stuns locks him

If he uses Holy Light Giorno can just summon something and one shot him, due to 200x speed diff he can statue the attack and easily set that up

How does he win?
Adam has wincons. He can destroy the environment like he did with Charlie to kill Gio without directly affecting his organisms, BFR Gio with a portal maybe. He's just a dumbass and wouldn't do anything beyond trying to obliterate Giorno.
 
Adam has wincons. He can destroy the environment like he did with Charlie to kill Gio without directly affecting his organisms
How? Giorno is MFTL he isn’t getting tagged by rocks nor would Adam know or figure that out before he dies
BFR Gio with a portal maybe
Not in character, no way. Too much of an EGO he would die before he does that unless it took place in Heaven
He's just a dumbass and wouldn't do anything beyond trying to obliterate Giorno.
Its not even his fault, he is facing a REALLY lethal hax (for this situation) which he has NO idea of and is speed gapped so much while his own AP worls AGAINST HIMSELF

What wincon does he actually have?? Give me one and I will accept it
 
How? Giorno is MFTL he isn’t getting tagged by rocks nor would Adam know or figure that out before he dies
That's clearly not what I said dude. I'm talking about destroying the ground for Giorno to fall through, AGAIN, like what Adam did to Charlie when he destroyed the hotel and you joked I didn't watch the show lol.

Not in character, no way. Too much of an EGO he would die before he does that unless it took place in Heaven
Yeah? It's almost like I said he's too stupid to do something that would actually let him win?

Its not even his fault, he is facing a REALLY lethal hax (for this situation) which he has NO idea of and is speed gapped so much while his own AP worls AGAINST HIMSELF

What wincon does he actually have?? Give me one and I will accept it
I think you're confusing not having a win-con for just not being able to act on one properly. Adam loses fair and square, and it all doesn't need to be nice and even. If you character can't cover a 200x speed gap with an AP gap 22 sextillion time larger + superior range + hax that could still take Giorno, well tough.
 
That's clearly not what I said dude. I'm talking about destroying the ground for Giorno to fall through, AGAIN, like what Adam did to Charlie when he destroyed the hotel and you joked I didn't watch the show lol.
He didnt do it specifically try to do that to Charlie… he just missed 😐. How would he even know he has to do that instead of attacking normally
Yeah? It's almost like I said he's too stupid to do something that would actually let him win?
What? That’s not how we handle stuff like this, if an ability that can win them is out of character for a person that doesn’t mean it isn’t a stomp as for a fair fight both characters under the rules need to have one feasible wincon. Its not a wincon because Adam wouldn’t do it.
I think you're confusing not having a win-con for just not being able to act on one properly. Adam loses fair and square, and it all doesn't need to be nice and even.
You havent even given an actual wincon. All you said was “Adam can do something he wouldn’t do in character to maybe win” and then said “Adam (who is a dumb idiot according to your logic) would figure out the invisible stand, Giorno’s complex ability and create a way to bypass it by using the environment” which to you he would do before he… simply tries blasting like always

Adam goes h2h at the start and stun locked, if he somehow survives he uses Holy Light which Giorno can use to counter with his hax.

You have to give me a single actual wincon that is reasonable which Adam could and would do before Giorno one shots him.

I don’t like the attitude at the very last part to note, its unnecessarily condescending
 

Isamu's AP got upgraded and now he can nearly one shot Geats.
Would've worked for Geats during that era, but current Geats' desire amp is instant so this is moot.
 
I've literally said that him nuking the environment is not out of character, with evidence form the show itself. Like Jotaro can technically dura-neg internal organs for an easy win, and I'd never say that it doesn't count as a win-con cause he doesn't do it regularly. To me, a stomp would mean the character has no conceivable way of winning, not that they just don't do it.
 
I've literally said that him nuking the environment is not out of character, with evidence form the show itself.
Which was debunked…
Like Jotaro can technically dura-neg internal organs for an easy win, and I'd never say that it doesn't count as a win-con cause he doesn't do it regularly. To me, a stomp would mean the character has no conceivable way of winning, not that they just don't do it.
I don’t want to sound mean by what YOU consider a stomp doesn't really matter. We have rules that we follow here
 
Well your opinion doesn’t matter, we don’t count battles as fair because the losing character has a super out of character move they could use to possibly win but would never.
Which was debunked…

I don’t want to sound mean by what YOU consider a stomp doesn't really matter. We have rules that we follow here
Well I've spoken my piece, and everyone else can decide if they want it removed. It ain't the end of the world if it (I'll just have to run a fair fight Adam still loses lol)
 
The Hunter’s matchups in these two locked profiles are outdated and should be removed.

 
Seems like more people are in favor of removing the Adam-Giorno match. I opened Giorno's profile so one of you can go remove the match, let us know here when you're done removing it
 
Faramir vs Jon Snow should be removed due to the following:
  • Faramir is far more skilled and experienced than Jon, whose skill for some reason was wanked as a god-tier of the verse in the thread, which isn't the case. And even overrating Jon's skill to that level, I don't think that even comes close to the skill of the LotR books. So to begin with, it's a skill stomp.
  • Faramir has a slight advantage in AP and far higher LS, which would allow him to disarm Jon by just applying a little strength in a sword exchange.
  • Speed was unequalized. Jon having higher reactions was argued as a win-con, but (per the wiki definition of reaction speed) that would only allow him to dodge a single blow/short, quick movement. Jon moves, fights, and attacks slower than Faramir (Superhuman vs Subsonic), who would only need to make multiple simultaneous attacks (combat speed) to overwhelm his reactions.
  • Finally, Jon is haxless, he's just a human swordsman. While Faramir has some abilities like Regeneration, Enhanced Senses, which grant him superhuman situational awareness in combat, and Telepathy, which allows him to read the thoughts and movements of a slower Jon, rendering his only advantage in reaction speed even more useless.
  • In summary, Faramir is superior to Jon in almost every aspect: skill, experience, abilities, AP, LS, and speed, minus reactions which are mostly useless for Jon.
 
Asking for removal of Ralsei vs Strife. Main argument for Strife winning was him having blitz speed amps, which would ensure that Ralsei couldn't keep up at all. Since Ralsei is naturally faster combatant, according to our speed equalization rules, result of this match shouldn't be on profile
 
Asking for removal of Ralsei vs Strife. Main argument for Strife winning was him having blitz speed amps, which would ensure that Ralsei couldn't keep up at all. Since Ralsei is naturally faster combatant, according to our speed equalization rules, result of this match shouldn't be on profile
Done
Faramir vs Jon Snow should be removed due to the following:
  • Faramir is far more skilled and experienced than Jon, whose skill for some reason was wanked as a god-tier of the verse in the thread, which isn't the case. And even overrating Jon's skill to that level, I don't think that even comes close to the skill of the LotR books. So to begin with, it's a skill stomp.
  • Faramir has a slight advantage in AP and far higher LS, which would allow him to disarm Jon by just applying a little strength in a sword exchange.
  • Speed was unequalized. Jon having higher reactions was argued as a win-con, but (per the wiki definition of reaction speed) that would only allow him to dodge a single blow/short, quick movement. Jon moves, fights, and attacks slower than Faramir (Superhuman vs Subsonic), who would only need to make multiple simultaneous attacks (combat speed) to overwhelm his reactions.
  • Finally, Jon is haxless, he's just a human swordsman. While Faramir has some abilities like Regeneration, Enhanced Senses, which grant him superhuman situational awareness in combat, and Telepathy, which allows him to read the thoughts and movements of a slower Jon, rendering his only advantage in reaction speed even more useless.
  • In summary, Faramir is superior to Jon in almost every aspect: skill, experience, abilities, AP, LS, and speed, minus reactions which are mostly useless for Jon.
@Tyranno223, @Ser_Hakim_Dayne, sorry for the ping, but you both argued for Faramir and Jon Snow respectively, and we need your opinions on if their match should be removed or not
 
@Tyranno223, @Ser_Hakim_Dayne, sorry for the ping, but you both argued for Faramir and Jon Snow respectively, and we need your opinions on if their match should be removed or not
I'm not too sure on my end. It's definitely fairly low diff, but Jon should be able kill Faramir on a fairly rare occasion, at least depending on Point 1.

  • Point 1 is something I can't really comment on. At the time of the match I was being told Jon was of comparable skill to Faramir but I'm not that into the GoT for powerscaling. If they two are comparable in skill enough, I don't see Faramir as so immensely above Jon that the latter can't get some kills out of say 20 matches.
  • Point 2 is true. Although AP is close enough that Jon can kill Faramir with little more effort needed than vice-versa if his blows lands, Faramir can disarm Jon fairly easily if their blades lock for long.
  • Point 3 is somewhat unfair to Jon? Faramir is physically faster but Jon can react to everything at a faster rate so it's not that skewed.
    • Even assuming GoT characters are baseline Superhuman speed, Faramir and similar characters shouldn't be more 3x faster than Jon's speed which is notable but not a blitz I believe, especially since Jon's reactions are over 1.75x faster.
  • Point 4 is also true, although I'll add that most of Faramir's hax is useless for combat scenarios outside of telepathy.
    • His blessings are a notably lessened version of a Númenórean's. Case in point, he can only really inspire feelings of nobility rather than awe. For all intents and purposes, he just gets increased bodily control, situational awareness (and he still gets hit with a dart mid-battle so it has its limits) and telepathy that he needs to intentionally use with a degree of focus.
    • Regeneration is especially just accelerated healing. Above baseline human speeds of healing by a notable amount, not much combat applicability.
 
you both argued for Faramir and Jon Snow respectively, and we need your opinions on if their match should be removed or not
Regarding the match, Jon Snow was downgraded to Peak Human and his Subsonic reaction speed is just perception speed now
 
Gojo vs. Piccolo, the aura farming one

This is like the same level as trying to make a "who's hotter" (or if going by the 'structured non-subjective' proposal of the original, a beauty pageant which this was NOT framed like) thread and getting it added onto the files. Wholly unserious and not the shit wiki was built for OR needs to index, and to be blunt this was voted like a popularity contest if anything. Better to nip these jank trends before they become terrible and cancerous.

I HATE fun.
 
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