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Kep also says it makes no difference and that the results wouldnt change...
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^^^^^^^^WeeklyBattles said:
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And Aizen, Zensum, me, Yomi, and Kami disagreed with that. You're not just saying ignore everyone else are you?
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Well, time stop is a different ability from time slow, but if the time slow is really that good, the effects are almost the same, the other character can't move while you can, it doesn't change much.
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Well. Issue with that is the only reason why Bayonetta won is because it was a time stop. But when your opponent can do a time slow of the same level or higher, they can then lead it to a time stop to react to anything you may have.
That's the issue.
Bayonetta doesn't have the capacity to fulfill her chance of winning by combo anymore.
But this is just one match. I'm saying all her matches should be looked at.
That's the issue.
Bayonetta doesn't have the capacity to fulfill her chance of winning by combo anymore.
But this is just one match. I'm saying all her matches should be looked at.
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Let's take a look at your reason:
"Time-slow isn't time-stop".
I replied.
Now, let's take another look at your reply:
"Still not time-stop."
I replied again.
"But that's still not time-stop."
Circular thread is circular.
"Time-slow isn't time-stop".
I replied.
Now, let's take another look at your reply:
"Still not time-stop."
I replied again.
"But that's still not time-stop."
Circular thread is circular.
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WeeklyBattles said:
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There is a difference between time stop and really good time slow, but the difference is minimal, why would we have to remake an entire thread just because of that?
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@Kep
I mean no disrespect but all the msgs directed here are at Weekly and Garg, who doesn't agree with you. And the full battle itself can be discussed later, I'm just saying time slow is not enough to compensate for the loss of time stop.
Also the main argument for "Sakuya does not lead with time erasure" becomes moot when she could just time stop. That one she's always using.
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Time slow < Time stop though no matter what... And now Bayo doesn't have time res...
I mean no disrespect but all the msgs directed here are at Weekly and Garg, who doesn't agree with you. And the full battle itself can be discussed later, I'm just saying time slow is not enough to compensate for the loss of time stop.
Also the main argument for "Sakuya does not lead with time erasure" becomes moot when she could just time stop. That one she's always using.
@Weekly
Time slow < Time stop though no matter what... And now Bayo doesn't have time res...
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Yes she does, look at her page
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Because the only reason why Bayo won was because she leads with time stop.
Now her advantage is gone because Sakuya can cancel a major factor on closing the distance to win.
Gtg to work.
Now her advantage is gone because Sakuya can cancel a major factor on closing the distance to win.
Gtg to work.
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Would Sakuya's time stop even affect bayo while she's in purgatorio?
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If someone slows time to like 100x slower, it is still frozen for all intents and purposes.
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Bayo uses WT to keep Enzo safe, has an entire battle and Enzo moves, like, 5 inches in the meantime.
WT's ratio is 1200x
WT's ratio is 1200x
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Bottom line; The downgrade makes no difference, Bayo still wins
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Kepekley23 said:
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Isn't x1000 slower around the difference between a human and a jet, or something like that?
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I do think Zensum and Coreofimbalance make sense here.
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IMO COB and Zen make more sense
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Purgaturio is the BFR iirc? This is turning into Sakuya vs Bayonetta, but yeah. Time stop/Erase the attack and dodging it.
Major Point
Time Slow no matter how high, will never reach Time Stop. Like the sort of how in real life it's impossible to count to true infinity or reaching absolute zero.
And yeah, for comparison.. a casually thrown knife could be accelerated to light speed for Sakuya. That's like 30 mil / 5 m per second so.... x6 mil something. Can't debate for long anyway. But majority is showing.
And majority disagreed with Bayonetta keeping her wins.
Major Point
Time Slow no matter how high, will never reach Time Stop. Like the sort of how in real life it's impossible to count to true infinity or reaching absolute zero.
And yeah, for comparison.. a casually thrown knife could be accelerated to light speed for Sakuya. That's like 30 mil / 5 m per second so.... x6 mil something. Can't debate for long anyway. But majority is showing.
And majority disagreed with Bayonetta keeping her wins.
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Ok, I guess.
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Here is the response I'll keep quoting.Kepekley23 said:
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Purgatorio isn't bfr, inferno is, purgatorio is the parallel universe she can go to to slow down time in the real world and attack while being intangible and invisible
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Bayonetta's Witch Time is now a Time Slow that makes everything thousands of times slower. This has literally no practical difference from her previous power.
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So I was talking to my man LazyHunter and found this
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1373437#22
You know that Matter Manipulation Accel loves to use? Apparently not even half as good as people make it out to be+He doesn't lead with it, and under Lazy's request I'm trying to remove any thread that really involves Accel's matter Manipulation, this includes.
Accelerator vs Beast here https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1166823?useskin=oasis
Ainz vs Accelerator https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1289134?useskin=oasis
And Shadow vs Accel https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1283899?useskin=oasis
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1373437#22
You know that Matter Manipulation Accel loves to use? Apparently not even half as good as people make it out to be+He doesn't lead with it, and under Lazy's request I'm trying to remove any thread that really involves Accel's matter Manipulation, this includes.
Accelerator vs Beast here https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1166823?useskin=oasis
Ainz vs Accelerator https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1289134?useskin=oasis
And Shadow vs Accel https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1283899?useskin=oasis
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Gargoyle are u fr my man. Even after the countless explanations, you still don't understand.
Firstly, Accelerator reducing opponents to the smallest level was only a argument for the Beast thread, where I specifically stated that he does not start with subatomicly dispersing someones existence. He would be forced to after being faced with endless regen.
Shadow and Ainz dont even have regen. What you doin.
Firstly, Accelerator reducing opponents to the smallest level was only a argument for the Beast thread, where I specifically stated that he does not start with subatomicly dispersing someones existence. He would be forced to after being faced with endless regen.
Shadow and Ainz dont even have regen. What you doin.
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@LAS
No trolling on this thread, thank you.
@Gargoyle
I agree these battles should be changed.
No trolling on this thread, thank you.
@Gargoyle
I agree these battles should be changed.
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Hey, stop right there, Lazy said in the thread I linked he doesn't lead with it, since he doesn't, Shadow and Ainz rek his shit, so those should be removed.LordAizenSama said:
Also yeah, I don't understand it, I don't understand why you keep telling me the same thing Lazy already debunked on that thread
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What trolling? Im not trolling.
The 2 latter threads don't even matter here. The beast one was a argument based on the level accel can manip matter after a period of time. He does not start with it. Its a theoretical practical use of his ability based on the mechanics of his power. Ask DT if you want.
The 2 latter threads don't even matter here. The beast one was a argument based on the level accel can manip matter after a period of time. He does not start with it. Its a theoretical practical use of his ability based on the mechanics of his power. Ask DT if you want.
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