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Venom VS. Spider-Man

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Spiderman lost to Raimi Spiderman, who is quite a bit weaker than Venom, and Raimi Spiderman is basically a more experienced MCU Spiderman, who only won with help from New Goblin + abusing Venom's weakness. MCU Spider will have no such luck.

In short, Venom via higher AP and more combat experience, especially with an opponent almost identical to this one.
 
Venom is effectively a stronger Rami Spider-Man with less experience and more weaknesses. Spidey's Regen keeps him in the fight longer and he actually has more experience then his competition for once. Not to mention, Spidey should be capable of exploiting Venom's weaknesses if he figures them out, given that New York has plenty of places where loud sounds and fire could be easily found, and Peter knows his way around since he lives in New York. Going with Peter here.
 
MCU Spidey with Tony's suit lost to Raimi Spiderman

Venom is superior to Raimi's spiderman

And you used the Homemade suit

What?
 
Schnee One said:
MCU Spidey with Tony's suit lost to Raimi Spiderman
Venom is superior to Raimi's spiderman

And you used the Homemade suit

What?
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I used the homemade suit because they're both 9-A.
 
GyroNutz said:
~ship~
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Yeah, about that.

A. Venom had plenty of prior knowledge thanks to the symbiote being bonded to Peter for a long time.

B. He had help from Sandman for most the fight.

C. Had set up the arena to give himself an advantage.

D. Had a hostage.

E. Caught Spiderman off guard both times they fought one-on-one.

F. Has only been in one serious fight ever.

And G. New Goblin was mostly focused on fighting Sandman, and only got himself killed by Brock thanks to PIS.
 
yes I know that. But it's also higher than 9-A, making this an AP stomp.

...no it isn't. At least 9-A doesn't mean anything about AP. The rating is still 9-A.
 
'ship'

A: Plenty of knowledge... but this Spiderman is almost identical in abilities. Huh.

B, C and D: Venom easily overpowers Spiderman alone, even with the latter's outside help from MJ

E: New Goblin caught him off guard, look where that got him.

G: How was that PIS...? Yes, he jumped into the attack, but you can't say he stood a chance against Venom 1v1

Also friendly neighbourhood reminder that Venom is quite a bit above 676.74 megajoules, whereas Homemade Suit Spidey is around 330 megajoules.

EDIT: Oh cmon, I got ninja'd hard...
 
Okay, so Spidey actually has a way to exploit Venom's weaknesses now and has information analysis to tell him what those weaknesses are. So it's that plus the reasons I already gave earlier. Oh, not to mention tazers.
 
CCMac27 said:
It's fine. Is your vote still for Venom?
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If the information analysis would allow Spidey to find Venom's weaknesses quick enough, I'd say he should take this. If not, still Venom. Retract my vote for now, please.
 
It's either this:

Spider-Man: Hey, suit. What's this guy weak too?

Suit: The symbiotic life form on his body appears susceptible to fire and loud noises.

Spider-Man: Cool, thanks.

Or this:

Spider-Man: Hey, suit. Switch to the webbing best suited for this situation.

Suit: Affirmative. *Scans and switches to explosives*
 
Can Karen do that though? This is an alien, it's nothing she's ever seen before. Wouldn't she have to find out somehow?
 
CCMac27 said:
Can Karen do that though? This is an alien, it's nothing she's ever seen before. Wouldn't she have to find out somehow?
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She was built by Tony Stark, who has fought dozens of Aliens before. The idea that a suit he made wouldn't be able to scan that seems odd to me.
 
True, it just seems like it wouldn't be that easy. Even a supersmart AI has to have some orior knowledge.
 
Karen has no prior knowledge of Symbiotes and isn't scanning any weaknesses unless a random fire or concert just happens to be in the middle of Central Park, Venom FRA.
 
Pretty sure I remember Tony's tech scanning alien tech it had never seen before. And there's nothing stopping Spidey from throwing out explosive stuff anyways once his regular stuff doesn't work.
 
I gotta give it to Venom. He easily overpowered Raimi Spider-Man who should be very experienced. Anytime Holland Spider-Man fights someone experienced more often than not he gets defeated. I highly doubt Peter will know his weakness. The Symbiote so far doesn't exist in the MCU so there's no reason as to why Karen should know his weaknesses. He also has the AP advantage.
 
While I think Spider-man and KAREN are smart enough to figure out Venom's weakness to sound, I don't think they have the tools to take advantage of those weaknesses before Venom tears Parker apart. Unless I've read that suits capabilities wrong (maybe it can empit a sonic or has explosives) I'm going to say Venom.
 
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