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Vegeta vs Frieza

Who is "he". I did prove that Vegeta got stronger due to his training with Whis in preparation for the ToP.
 
Who is "he". I did prove that Vegeta got stronger due to his training with Whis in preparation for the ToP.
Well Goku was considerably stronger than Vegeta in the Black saga and Goku was also doing training too, and he also probably got a zenkai for almost dying to Hit. There's no way to prove Vegeta became equal to SSB Goku with that training and there is proof that Frieza is equal to SSB Goku
 
Well Goku was considerably stronger than Vegeta in the Black saga. There's no way to prove Vegeta became equal to SSB Goku with that training
Where is it stated or shown that SSB Goku was "considerably" stronger than SSB Vegeta in the Future Trunks saga?
 
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I'm pretty sure SSB Goku matching and canceling Fused Zamasu's fireball with Kamehameha is plot (His arms were also useless after the clash btw). Goku and Vegeta have consistently been shown to be more or less equal to each toher until Goku utilises Kaioken or achieves new forms such as UI Omen and MUI.
 
The Vegeta that was used in the match was from the Beginning of the ToP, as well as Frieza

SSB Vegeta (Pre-ToP) = SSB Goku (Pre-ToP) = Golden Frieza (Pre-ToP)
 
The Vegeta that was used in the match was from the Beginning of the ToP, as well as Frieza

SSB Vegeta (Pre-ToP) = SSB Goku (Pre-ToP) = Golden Frieza (Pre-ToP)
Yeah, but without saying that the SSB Goku vs Fusion Zamasu is plot, how is SSB Vegeta = to SSB Goku?
 
Yeah, but without saying that the SSB Goku vs Fusion Zamasu is plot, how is SSB Vegeta = to SSB Goku?
Because both Goku and Vegeta trained with each other after the Black Saga

And yes SSB Goku = Fusion Zamasu is just PIS. That, or the far more logical explaination that he only scales to a very heavily suppressed Fused Zamasu, as he's seen powering up massively after fighting Goku
 
Because both Goku and Vegeta trained with each other after the Black Saga

And yes SSB Goku = Fusion Zamasu is just PIS. That, or the far more logical explaination that he only scales to a very heavily suppressed Fused Zamasu, as he's seen powering up massively after fighting Goku
Oh if they were training with eachother evenly then I guess they're equal, but he does scale to heavily suppressed Fused Zamasu (if its not PIS), and Vegeta does not as Him and Trunks combined weren't able to do as much damage to him.
 
Oh if they were training with eachother evenly then I guess they're equal, but he does scale to heavily suppressed Fused Zamasu (if its not PIS), and Vegeta does not as Him and Trunks combined weren't able to do as much damage to him.
Yeah but Goku and Vegeta trained since the Zamasu incident, so he caught up

Vegeta also did not fall behond Goku at all during the ToP, and were generally portrayed as equal to each other
 
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