- 774
- 158
I posted the calc on Mitch's wall for evaluation. We'll see what happens from here.
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant when I said that he was severely weakened.Doma was way too poisoned for his statue creation to be his upper limit
Okay.I posted the calc on Mitch's wall for evaluation. We'll see what happens from here.
Zenitsu's 8-B+ feat was less than 1 ton away from Doma's feat iirc, the difference being (as you're saying now) the fact that Doma was severely weakened. An 8-A character doing an 8-B+ feat when severely weakened is, quite frankly, amazingly consistent.It's interesting. The result surpassing Doma's feat could be considered problematic but we do know that Doma was severely weakened at the time of performing it and we do have several characters either at 8-A or likely 8-A.
O since you from calc team can You please check the 8A recalc?Zenitsu's 8-B+ feat was less than 1 ton away from Doma's feat iirc, the difference being (as you're saying now) the fact that Doma was severely weakened. An 8-A character doing an 8-B+ feat when severely weakened is, quite frankly, amazingly consistent.
I can't evaluate my own calc sadlyO since you from calc team can You please check the 8A recalc?
Shit mb didn't reqlize You did the calc(mainly cuz on phone it doesn't show who did it)I can't evaluate my own calc sadly
Well Kaigaku would be scaling to Zenitsu, who will become 8-Aso basically UM4 and 5 will scale above kaigaku (8-B)
and people comparable to or above zenitsu in sunrise countdown arc will be 8-A?
so we would have 8-A tengen, gyutaro and daki?Well Kaigaku would be scaling to Zenitsu, who will become 8-A
Could you link the calc? I'll take a look at itI'd wait on Demon Slayer Revisions as a whole given there's a Low 7-C calc that needs to be evaluated.
Yeah sure! One secCould you link the calc? I'll take a look at it
Gyutaro scales to a hundred times above Daki, so she would be a lot weaker unless that is changed.so we would have 8-A tengen, gyutaro and daki?
i mean, daki would probably be 8-B or smthing but wow
I'll list the chars that are relative and chars that are above eos zenitsu from weakest (top) to strongest (bottom)and people comparable to or above zenitsu in sunrise countdown arc will be 8-A?
Bassically everyone who is rated as high 8c rnWho's going to be 8-B btw?
Does that make characters like Daki and Evolved Demon Form Nezuko 21 tons?Gyutaro scales to a hundred times above Daki, so she would be a lot weaker unless that is changed.
If we decide to scale Gyutaro ap to Kaigaku 21 tons sounds about rightDoes that make characters like Daki and Evolved Demon Form Nezuko 21 tons?
Hantengu’s Emotion Clones shouldn’t scale. Kaigaku was keeping up with and hurting Post-Pillar Training Zenitsu. Post-Pillar Training Zenitsu is even stronger than Post-Zeroshiki Training Tanjirou since he was shown to be able to clear the first three pillar training that this Tanjirou couldn’t complete until after he trained a bit more. And Post-Zeroshiki Training Tanjirou is comparable to Adult Form Nezuko who is in turn comparable to Hantengu’s Emotion Clones. Hantengu’s Emotion Clones are only in between Daki and Gyutaro’s lvl. They shouldn’t scale to True UM6s like Kaigaku.
Agree with everything, on the fence about scaling the 4 first emotional clones to kaigaku since they may be weaker but agree with zohakuten and hantengu scaling above him. My reasoning for that is a marked tanji managed to blitz 3 of them and we know that he's relative to unmarked zenitsu based on their performance nearing the end of the muzan fight, albeit tanji fought for a significantly longer time and would be more fatigued than zenitsu
Does that make characters like Daki and Evolved Demon Form Nezuko 21 tons?
Wouldn't Gyutaro scaling to Kaigaku in terms of Attack Potency not cause scaling issues since the emotion clones scale to his Attack Potency through having fought a Tanjiro who surpassed his level of power against Gyutaro that was enough to cut through his neck? I don't see an issue with Gyutaro being faster than Kaigaku and being superior to him in a fight but if I understand the current scaling right, then Zohakuten is scaling four times higher than Gyutaro due to being the combined form of the emotion clones which can individually match Tanjiro.If we decide to scale Gyutaro ap to Kaigaku 21 tons sounds about right
Tanjiro has separate keys for the Post-Type Zero Training and the Post-Hashira Training and we don't assume that his level of strength stagnated, so that shouldn't be an issue unless we want to apply that sort of assumption to his marked state for some reason. Tanjiro did surpass his marked state from the Entertainment District arc in his base form and the Demon Slayer Mark was still a boost for him, so the marked state is presumably getting stronger as well.Hmmm that is true
Albeit elixir reason causes scaling issues itself now that i think About it(unless we make changes) since we scale marked tanjiro to Akaza and Zantegnu
Elixir reason implies infinity castle arc Tanjiro not Hantegnu fight "zenitsu based on their performance nearing the end of the muzan fight, albeit tanji fought for a significantly longer time and would be more fatigued than zenitsu" tho he did mention tanjiro would have been more fatiguedTanjiro has separate keys for the Post-Type Zero Training and the Post-Hashira Training and we don't assume that his level of strength stagnated, so that shouldn't be an issue unless we want to apply that sort of assumption to his marked state for some reason. Tanjiro did surpass his marked state from the Entertainment District arc in his base form and the Demon Slayer Mark was still a boost for him, so the marked state is presumably getting stronger as well.
Okay, but there are still the reasons that Peter 1129 and I gave for the emotion clones not scaling, so that should be valid.Elixir reason implies infinity castle arc Tanjiro not Hantegnu fight "zenitsu based on their performance nearing the end of the muzan fight, albeit tanji fought for a significantly longer time and would be more fatigued than zenitsu" tho he did mention tanjiro would have been more fatigued
Where is it?Yeah sure! One sec
Here you go brotherCould you link the calc? I'll take a look at it
Alright after some thinking, here's what I think:Wouldn't Gyutaro scaling to Kaigaku in terms of Attack Potency not cause scaling issues since the emotion clones scale to his Attack Potency through having fought a Tanjiro who surpassed his level of power against Gyutaro that was enough to cut through his neck? I don't see an issue with Gyutaro being faster than Kaigaku and being superior to him in a fight but if I understand the current scaling right, then Zohakuten is scaling four times higher than Gyutaro due to being the combined form of the emotion clones which can individually match Tanjiro.
Yeah the scaling is absolutely ****** if we used my one, even though I think its consistent and logical. I just realised my reasoning above means that SSV arc Tanji would be able to beat Gyutaro on his ownAlbeit elixir reason causes scaling issues itself now that i think About it(unless we make changes) since we scale marked tanjiro to Akaza and Zantegnu
My stand is that tumor eye Tanji is massively above Zenitsu due to scaling from the Muzan blitz, and nearing the end of the fight they were shown to be relative albeit Tanji was more fatigued as he fought for around 40+ mins longerElixir reason implies infinity castle arc Tanjiro not Hantegnu fight "zenitsu based on their performance nearing the end of the muzan fight, albeit tanji fought for a significantly longer time and would be more fatigued than zenitsu" tho he did mention tanjiro would have been more fatigued
The 8-B+ feat was performed by Doma who was extremely severely seriously critically weakened when he performed that feat, he was using the majority of his power to try to disintegrate the poison while the rest was being used to create the statue to give him the 8-B+ rating.I'd suggest holding off on any edits to the profiles unless you guys want to do a minor edit only to edit them again in a few days. I'd also suggest coming up with an anti outlier argument since this is the best feat in the verse by far.
Gyutaro scales to Tengen who scales to his fellow Pillars when it comes to speed, so I don't think that Kaigaku is outright faster than Gyutaro but I can imagine them being relative to each other.Do yall think Kaigaku is faster than Gyutaro? Narrative may lean towards Kaigaku being faster
This is only running speed right? On the fence about using that method since I think overall speed is more important, but yeah Kaigaku should be ~ Gyutaro at minimumGyutaro scales to Tengen who scales to his fellow pillars when it comes to speed, so I don't think that Kaigaku is outright faster than Gyutaro but I can imagine them being relative to each other.
"The list is purely about running speed with no specified length or description of the running course. Mitsuri, Muichiro and Obanai are suggested to have been impeded in some way" (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tengen_Uzui)This is only running speed right? On the fence about using that method since I think overall speed is more important, but yeah Kaigaku should be ~ Gyutaro at minimum
Ooo i seeMy stand is that tumor eye Tanji is massively above Zenitsu due to scaling from the Muzan blitz, and nearing the end of the fight they were shown to be relative albeit Tanji was more fatigued as he fought for around 40+ mins longer
Alright then"The list is purely about running speed with no specified length or description of the running course. Mitsuri, Muichiro and Obanai are suggested to have been impeded in some way" (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tengen_Uzui)
Yeah, it is about running speed and I do agree that overall speed is more important but it's still an indicator that Tengen isn't supposed to be incomparably slower like his previous speed rating suggested which together with the comparison to Mitsuri that the manga made, though it explicitly said that he was slower than her, was enough to upgrade him to his current Massively Hypersonic+ rating, so I view him personally as around the same level of speed as the other Pillars.
None. Though, the freezing air is cold enough to cause cells to undergo necrosis, instantly freeze water and wooden bridges, as well as completely prevent Kanao's arm from moving despite not being in direct contact with the icy air. No idea if those values would increase the yield, but let us know if it doesAs for the Douma feat, do we have an exact temperature?