Updating the Nigh-Omnipresence Page

[Antoniofer]

From this thread, the page uses the picture of a character that no longer has a profile in the wiki, so it should be replaced by another more notable character; adding more examples is another possibility.

Furthermore, is possible that the description isn't as much detailed, it may sounds like only characters that exist anywhere and everywhere with space, time and nothingness should have Nigh Omnipresence, however, there's few other types (such existing where a specific element, energy, essence, concept, etc. exists).

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Who would be a notable character to use for the image?.

Also, Undergrowth's Will and consciousness exists in all plant life but I don't think we can consider him Nigh-Omnipresnt.

 

[Antoniofer]

Welp, Solaris is one of the most notables examples of Temporal Presence, but as for conventional Nigh Omnipresence (space) I don't remeber much notable characters, maybe Infinite Zamasu.

To qualify as Nigh Omnipresence the character can be everywhere and nowhere at the same time, so just share its senses with palnts shouldn't count unless Undergrowth can materializes completely where any plant exist.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Infinite Zamasu seem ok to use.

Undergrowth can literally form from the plants. Instead of forming himself in the human world again, he reformed himself in the Ghost Zone.

 

[Antoniofer]

Bump

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Infinite Zamasu seems good

 

[Antvasima]

Does somebody have suggestions for an improved structure in the page?

 

[Antoniofer]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

Should I add this to the highlights thread?

 

[Antoniofer]

The change is not big, but I think is better if we finish with this once and for all. Yes, better to do so.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[The_Causality]

Why not use Ajimu for this exemple? It seem very relevant here.

 

[Antoniofer]

If she is literally everywhere then is not Nigh Omnipresence, its Omnipresence; unless we go even more estrict in what qualify as Omnipresence.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, omnipresence isn't just being wherever and whenever you want, it is to be everywhere and everywhen at the same time.

 

[OnePunchSaitama]

Than does Flash's attempt count? The one where he runs faster than teleportation?

 

[Antoniofer]

Welp, if she is localized everywhere within time I guess she qualify, but at the time Infinite Zamasu seems more notable example (she can still be added to the list). But again, we can discuss that.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Seems reasonable, Fusion Zamasu and Solaris both seem like good candidates.

 

[DMB_1]

I'd honestly merge the Nigh-Omnipresence page with the Omnipresence one.

 

[Antvasima]

Nigh-Omnipresence still means a more limited version of being everywhere at once, such as being the embodiment of all light in the universe, not simply being in several places at once, that is more a form of duplication, or even an immeasurable speed feat in the Flash case.

 

[DMB_1]

Yes, however, it's still pretty much a subtype of Omnipresence, and I feel like the Nigh-Omnipresence page would still lack a lot of content after those revisions, to the point that merging the two would make a better page overall.

But that's just me.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Nigh-Omnipresence or Omnipresence in general aren't technically speed ratings, as noted on the speed page. They're more like state of being abilities more than anything. Omnipresence depending on the level could translate to Infinite or Immeasurable speed via sheer size, but Nigh-Omnipresence isn't really speed at all. But the two are significantly different, so I think keeping the pages separated might be better.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Medeus. However, we might have to improve a bit on the nigh-omnipresence page description.

 

[Antoniofer]

Don't think they translate to infinite or immesurable speed, but, in case of Spatial Presence, character is anywhere and nowhere at the same time so do not need to dodge since is in or out the trajectory of the attack. As for Temporal Presence, isn't like it travelled to the past/future via shear speed, but rather is already there.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Most true Omnipresent characters are still typically assumed to have combat speed and reactions on that level. But that's off topic.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

Use a character that is pretty popular or iconic, Infinite Zamasu sounds alright from a glance.

 

[Antvasima]

Does anybody have a more clead-cut suggestion, such as an embodiment of a specific concept or a more limited area?

 

[GLHF22]

Ajimu Omnipresence must be removed, it makes no sense why she can have omnipresence while she cannot even Exist in the the past and future at the same time

 

[The_Causality]

Ajimu Omnipresence must be removed, it makes no sense why she can have omnipresence while she cannot even Exist in the the past and future at the same time

You know that there exist scale about Omnipresence? Omnipresence doesn't always mean exist in the past and future at the same time but exist everywhere depending of the scale, it would be throught a planet, a galaxy or everywhere on the space, it's varies

 

[GLHF22]

well i dont want to derail this thread, go to my thread if you want more discussion

 

[The_Causality]

Anyway, i don't see any good reason why we have two Omnipresence page, Nigh Omnipresence page should be removed/Merged with the current Omnipresence page

 

[GLHF22]

i think we just need to add different Type of Omnipresence/ NIgh Omnipresence just likes many other ability

The limited one and The true Omnipresence

 

[Antvasima]

So, are we going to improve on the Nigh-Omnipresence page, or is it mostly fine as it is?

 

[Antoniofer]

Well, if people consider that there's no need to add a new description, I guess the only thing remaining is changing the picture and removing the link to SB Janemba; and if possible, add any other user such Solaris.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Should I unlock the page for you, so you can perform these minor updates?

 

[Antoniofer]

I guess I can do it after lunch. ANy phrase about Infinite Zamasu that should I wrote? Similar of how Janemba has it.

Also, should I add Ajime to the list? I'll comment after I finish the lunch.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know what you should write about Zamasu.

It is uncertain if Ajimu Najimi can achieve true nigh omnipresence. She has never been explicitly stated to have it in any case, so preferably not.

 

[Antvasima]

I have unlocked the page. Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Antoniofer]

I already edited it, see if the description of Zamasu Nogh Omnipresence works. Also added Solaris as user.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks. I will check.

 

[Antvasima]

It seems fine to me.