Universe six

[AidenBrooks999]

I'm really inclined on "Unknown at least 4-B"

 

[Pokémon_Trainer_Jacob]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/310688#6 Here's more evidence that Frost is Solar System Level.

 

[RadicalMrR]

bump

 

[Antoniofer]

I doubt that the actual power of Piccolo is very different form the SP Cell's, and I doubt that Frost's power has deceased that much after the fight against Goku, so I'm with High 4-C at the very at least or Likely/Possibly 4-B for Final form Frost, At least High 4-C for SSJ Kabba and Unknown for the others two

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

i'd say frost can be 4-B

and ssj kabba (while giving vegeta trouble) wud be 4-B

 

[Pokémon_Trainer_Jacob]

We should probably vote on this. I think he is 4-B, so that's 1 vote. Everyone give your vote.

 

[RadicalMrR]

We should probably vote on this. I think he is 4-B, so that's 1 vote. Everyone give your vote.

I think the majority of people said atleast high 4-C Unknown possible 4-B for Frost and Magetta

what we nedd to see is what people think of 4-C ssj kabba now

 

[Pokémon_Trainer_Jacob]

I think he's 4-C to 4-B.

 

[Pokémon_Trainer_Jacob]

Considering that SSJ Cabba held his own against Vegeta who is on par with SSJ Goku who was easily defeating Frost (who we think is High 4-C to 4-B), than SSJ Cabba is easily 4-B.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Both Base and SSJ Cabba should be 4-B

 

[Pokémon_Trainer_Jacob]

Agreed

 

[Antvasima]

What do the rest of the staff think? Should Frost, Cabba, and Magetta be "At least High 4-C. Likely 4-B", or just plain "4-B"? Also, who wants to perform the statistics changes?

 

[Strmi]

4-B is ss level or?

 

[Antvasima]

Yes.

 

[Damico22]

4B for frost sounds good

 

[RadicalMrR]

What do the rest of the staff think? Should Frost, Cabba, and Magetta be "At least High 4-C. Likely 4-B", or just plain "4-B"? Also, who wants to perform the statistics changes?

Since I started the thread I can do it but I need to know if when you unlock their page I can just make the changes by going to contribute

 

[AidenBrooks999]

4-B

I really believe they're FAR superior to Majin Buu, even Buuhan

Kinda sad the massive difference between 4-A and 4-B

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Should Frost, Cabba, and Magetta be "At least High 4-C. Likely 4-B"

This is the safer choice. Going with this, although it really depends on where Piccolo is in this tier.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I'd go with 4-B more than at least High 4-C.

It'd be very odd to see some of the U6 fighters as being weaker than Cell (Super Perfect Cell to be exact) let alone those from the Buu Saga like Mystic Gohan and Majin Buu...

Edit: Hmm then again, At least High 4-C, likely 4-B is something that could more safe to go as what TMR pointed out...

 

[Strmi]

There's no way anybody from U6 is weaker than Buu

 

[Canis_Latrans2]

I think at least 3-B is good for Frost and SSJ cabba and magetta Unkown for botamo as SSJ is at least equal to SSG http://imgur.com/a/oh08x

And as for Piccolo VS Frost Frost was weakned http://i2.***********.net/dragon-ball-super/10/dragon-ball-super-7273783.jpg

https://gyazo.com/772f4c8f342faff062515a7e4afcccf7

And Piccolo was trying to tire frost out https://gyazo.com/a5d339db158c88b17686360dc74a611c

 

[Antoniofer]

Is impossible that Frost has become like 10ˆ24 weaker after the battle against Goku, about Kabba, he doesn't seems stronger than Magetta maybe these two should be around the same level; Botamo doesn't seems strong at all, I think that even Piccolo could defeat him without much troubles, he is just resistent to physical attacks

 

[Canis_Latrans2]

Is impossible that Frost has become like 10ˆ24 weaker after the battle against Goku, about Kabba, he doesn't seems stronger than Magetta maybe these two should be around the same level; Botamo doesn't seems strong at all, I think that even Piccolo could defeat him without much troubles, he is just resistent to physical attacks

Well Piccolo has been trainning since the last arc so we don't know if its that much of a difference and it would be 10^11 not 10^24

 

[AidenBrooks999]

I think at least 3-B is good for Frost and SSJ cabba and magetta Unkown for botamo as SSJ is at least equal to SSG http://imgur.com/a/oh08x

Yeah, I totally forget about that, that is pretty reasonable

But, that will mean piccolo should be much higher than 4-B

(Or well, Cell holds back enough to only destroy islands, so frost can be weakened until reach 4-B or 4-A)

 

[Canis_Latrans2]

Well frost was weakned so Piccolo should be in unkown

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

no 3-B for frost or kabba

ssj goku IS NOT USING GOD KI

• sigh* why dont people understand?

for now a make shift tieer of 4-B is ok IMO, untill they show more feats in the future

also btw because base goku > ssj gohan

wudnt his speed be higher than ssj gohan as well?

like mftl range maybe??

 

[Canis_Latrans2]

no 3-B for frost or kabba
ssj goku IS NOT USING GOD KI

• sigh* why dont people understand?

for now a make shift tieer of 4-B is ok IMO, untill they show more feats in the future

also btw because base goku > ssj gohan

wudnt his speed be higher than ssj gohan as well?

like mftl range maybe??

You have no proof that he wasn't using god ki and theres evidence that he has god ki in him now http://img.***********.com/cdn/manga/102/2749/061.png

and

http://imgur.com/a/oh08x

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

once again if he was using god ki then base god goku >>>>>>> ssj goku

then why the actual HELL would he go ssj at all

that god ki as base thing is not in use anymore

base goku = unknown, likely 4-B

ssj goku = unknown, likely 4-B

ssgss goku = at least 3-B

ssgss goku with kaikoken = 3-A

 

[Antvasima]

@TheMightyRegulator Okay then. Do you wish to perform the changes? Also, perhaps regular 4-B for Magetta, due to posing a difficult challenge for SSJ Vegeta?

 

[Canis_Latrans2]

once again if he was using god ki then base god goku >>>>>>> ssj goku
then why the actual HELL would he go ssj at all

that god ki as base thing is not in use anymore

base goku = unknown, likely 4-B

ssj goku = unknown, likely 4-B

ssgss goku = at least 3-B

ssgss goku with kaikoken = 3-A

He uses SSJ with god ki

 

[Antvasima]

@Canis Latrans2 That does not appear to be the case anymore. I would appreciate if you could permanently drop this. Thank you.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

once again if he was using god ki then base god goku >>>>>>> ssj goku
then why the actual HELL would he go ssj at all

that god ki as base thing is not in use anymore

base goku = unknown, likely 4-B

ssj goku = unknown, likely 4-B

ssgss goku = at least 3-B

ssgss goku with kaikoken = 3-A

He uses SSJ with god ki

ssj with god ki is SSGSS/SSB....

also as ant said, this has been established a while back, the U6 fighters having a make shift 4-B tier for now is the best option, that can always be changed with new feats...

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

That sounds fair. I will make the changes now.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Happy to help

What should we do about Botamo? I would think Possibly At Least 4-C via powerscaling should be good, considering he's one of Universe 6's strongest fighters.

 

[Antvasima]

We don't really know how powerful he is. Regular non-SSJ Goku managed to drag Botamo out of the ring, with the latter unable to stop him, and we do not know the upper limits of his durability.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

We don't really know how powerful he is. Regular non-SSJ Goku managed to drag Botamo out of the ring, with the latter unable to stop him, and we do not know the upper limits of his durability.

btw isnt base goku > ssj gohan

and ssj gohan > piccolo, and piccolo is "at least large star level"

so shouldnt even base goku be 4-B?

also as for botamo, i think unknown is fine as of now, we dont have much clue about his AP and his dura's upper limits are unknown

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. How is base Goku > SSJ Gohan?

 

[Pocket-Chu]

I do not know. How is base Goku > SSJ Gohan?

SSJ Gohan couldn't do anything to 1st Form Frieza while Base Goku was a bit stronger than 4th Form Frieza.

 

[Pocket-Chu]

So then on the DBZ Verse page, this puts Frost, Magetta and Cabba in High-Tier while Botamo goes in the Mid-High Tier right?