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It's not THAT stronger though. Plus she can still spam Danmaku alongside the green mode and yellow arrows which are a solid wincon.
Remember that in UT magic works fine against Flowey who is soulless as well.
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Undyne vs Marauder (DOOM) (0-8-0) (Concluded)
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Remember that in UT magic works fine against Flowey who is soulless as well.
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to be fair, green mode only afect things that have souls
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It's still something made from her magic though. If magic in Undertale affects also soulless stuff, shown from indirect stuff like KR too, Green Mode works just fine.
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Not a spam
No soul
Marauder shoots before she does these
Its because its physical. Not because it dura negs soulless beings
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KR /=/ Any other type of Magic
This is like saying every UT character dura negs because their magic should be like KR
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Nice strawman. KR is dura neg. Green Mode not. It's about what can they affect lol.
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It is diferent sinse It's status effect inducment thathas only been show to afect the soul, even make It green, and sinse there is a cannonic green human soul It's probable more belivable to be a thing that only afect souls
still, danmaku + skill on It self is a viable wincondition
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I ddon't think we ever saw a status effect inducment in undertale afect something without a soul
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ShionAH
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Green mode cannot effect soulless beings man tf
Doesnt matter.
Undyne doesnt spam like Omega Flowey/Sans/Undying does.
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Let's see It in another way, the soul in UT has 42.72 cm., that means the emon guy has no viable way to dodge danmaku, he will be constantly hitted
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matters and undyne can dodge it
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Tbf I'm saying this also because of a thing about Sans other than KR.
If Blue Mode can affect Flowey (it was even accepted here before iirc) why shouldn't Green Mode too?
If Blue Mode can affect Flowey (it was even accepted here before iirc) why shouldn't Green Mode too?
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whem was It acepted?
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Sans was once 9-A via magic due to him hurting Flowey, meaning that even the epic TK attack affected him.
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Blue Mode doesnt effect flowey thats not accepted
What no? Tf?
Sans TK was 9-A for doing 1 damage to Frisk.
No she cannot
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once, It was wrong :V and was beacuse his TK don't have the Karma effect to ignore conventional dura like his other atacks
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yes, we accept that the soul has that size, It's even used for all UT calcs to scale from the soul
why not?
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Small Building level with Magic (He is capable of harming Frisk normally by slamming them into walls, capable of killing Flowey)
TK is literally something included in the Blue Mode lmao.
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ye, and? better like this?
once, It was wrong :V and was beacuse his blue mode TK damage don't have the Karma effect to ignore conventional dura like his other atacks
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By “Magic” they meant his bones and gaster blasters fool
At this point you are coping man, Undyne has literal no wincons
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I mean that TK/Blue Mode still work on soulless stuff, so the Paralysis from Green Mode should too.
Neither Blue nor Green mode have dura neg to begin with, they're simply status effects.
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What I meant is that we have no prof that It afected flowey, and the one you showed is debunked
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so you not gonna awnser, look guy, a good way to go from this, If we simulated this battle 100000 times as long undyne win one of thouse simulation It's not a stomp
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Good luck, I actually will be happy if the UT status effect induciment afect more them things with souls
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Marauder dodges and blocks everything, his shield no sells BFG shots which can quickly blow up the Marauder with just it's tendrils in a short amount of time
Shield comes up instantly so he doesn't have to worry about doing so in time
Does 0 damage to him though
I fail to see how Marauder doesn't just run up to her, dodge and block everything and just cleave her with his axe. Since she can't oneshot him back, he can literally afford to take tons of hits from her spears due to his immortality type 2 and durability advantage.
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Yeah but Undyne aint winning this. Maraduer has every advantage possible including hax. He has no soul which means Undynes most important hax wont do shit. Its NOT fair
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just think like this
undyne just need to focous on dodging and avoding marauder while using her danmaku, It's a decisive win for the demon, but not a stomp really
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ye, and? as long isn't a stomp this not matter
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Undyne isnt the one to dodge for the entire battle plus she is not dodging someone more skilled than her and demon has more LS
Thats not what I said. Its a stomp simple
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UT game mechanics makes monsters not dodge, but she trained with asgore that by her own words "dodge every single one of my atacks" so she is trained to be a dodge fighter.... we don't considere stomps thanks to what a character would do in character, only based on their habilities
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This is legit a big load of bullshit because you're abusing game mechanics. Both Undertale/Deltarune characters can perfectly dodge even in lore, stop acting like Sans is the only one smart enough to do that, Christ.
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don't take him to serious, he has show to nut undertand much how we do things in the wiki, like sugesting alien x TK should downscale from tier 7 characters
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Undyne isnt one to dodge. Thats a part of her character. Bursting head on
You are as smart as a bucket, I didnt say that what I said is Alien X uses it in a Tier 7 way which I think admitted to be wrong
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if you did I had alread unfollowed the thread as I said I would, and no need to get agresive
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If Asgore does in training she'll too in a serious fight. Come on now.
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So then stop being annoying asf.
I mean maybe but Idk I always thought of Undyne as a “Dodging is for *******” type
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I'm just stating the true, you really should get used to how we do things here before continuing debating in vs threads, I would love to debate more whem you are more used to It, but this is not a place for this conversation to continue
headcannon, specially sinse she looks up from asgore as the "stronghest" even trough he is a dodger
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When someone literally uses something you said like 3 weeks or months ago and calls you “dumb”, you get offended. Thats common sense.
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