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As the title states, I'll be going over some things in undertale + wanked characters
Undyne the Undying -
People say she is multiversal due to having the same stats as Chara when they destroyed the entire game. However this is extremely false.
By normal logic, Asgore has 80 ATK and DEF, and hes small town level. So 19 more points and now that makes anyone with that multiversal?
no.
One thing you must take notice of is that Chara/Frisk had been using the old tutu and the ballet shoes, which is 10 DEF and 7 ATK. And with that, they beat Undyne with absolutely no problem. And if you edit the game files to get Real Knife and the Locket, you beat Undyne in 3-5 perfect timed hits, and she only deals 1 damage to you. The only reason she most likely lasts the extra hits is due to Determination she has. If Undying had 0 determination but same stats she wouldve gotten 1 shotted by Chara again.
Omega Flowey -
People say he is stronger than Chara because of the LvL 9999 thing. the thing is I wouldnt even consider that relevant due to LV raising attack. (however Frisk took like 4 HP per hit WITH BANDAGE ON.)
However here is some simple scaling:
Chara destroys Frisk and the world in one hit when they have Real Knife and the Locket.
Omega Flowey kills them in 6 hits when they are reset to bandage and stick.
yeah totally stronger than chara...
Asriel -
While I agree Asriel has more hax and such. The only evidence backing up that Asriel is superior is that he has infinite stats. The stats thing as a backup are really unclear in multiple ways. And that isnt even what matters, a simple dialouge proves some things off:
"HP, ATK, DEF, LV, EXP, GOLD, when those numbers rise. That feeling... thats me.. "Chara""
This proves Chara is the embodiment of ATK and DEF. Thus their Type 8 Immortality rating as they rely on it. Infinite doesnt really matter when youre fighting the complete embodiment of what you have as infinite.
And here's some other things.
Hyper Goner erased just the timeline. Proof of this is in dialouge "Enough playing around! It's time to purge this timeline once and for all!"
notice it says timeline, not world.
During Asriel's true form fight, and mind you he was using his full power. a line of dialouge said "The whole word is ending"
What this means? The entire verse was about to collapse, as Asriel was breaking it and doing anything else to destroy it. and this was at FULL POWER.
Chara did that in one shot.
One more thing;
During the True Reset, you completely erase the memory, influence, and effect of Asriel and Omega Flowey. However you cannot erase Chara's consequence without completely erasing the game files.
anyways, Revision Proposal:
Give Chara 2-A
Undyne the Undying -
People say she is multiversal due to having the same stats as Chara when they destroyed the entire game. However this is extremely false.
By normal logic, Asgore has 80 ATK and DEF, and hes small town level. So 19 more points and now that makes anyone with that multiversal?
no.
One thing you must take notice of is that Chara/Frisk had been using the old tutu and the ballet shoes, which is 10 DEF and 7 ATK. And with that, they beat Undyne with absolutely no problem. And if you edit the game files to get Real Knife and the Locket, you beat Undyne in 3-5 perfect timed hits, and she only deals 1 damage to you. The only reason she most likely lasts the extra hits is due to Determination she has. If Undying had 0 determination but same stats she wouldve gotten 1 shotted by Chara again.
Omega Flowey -
People say he is stronger than Chara because of the LvL 9999 thing. the thing is I wouldnt even consider that relevant due to LV raising attack. (however Frisk took like 4 HP per hit WITH BANDAGE ON.)
However here is some simple scaling:
Chara destroys Frisk and the world in one hit when they have Real Knife and the Locket.
Omega Flowey kills them in 6 hits when they are reset to bandage and stick.
yeah totally stronger than chara...
Asriel -
While I agree Asriel has more hax and such. The only evidence backing up that Asriel is superior is that he has infinite stats. The stats thing as a backup are really unclear in multiple ways. And that isnt even what matters, a simple dialouge proves some things off:
"HP, ATK, DEF, LV, EXP, GOLD, when those numbers rise. That feeling... thats me.. "Chara""
This proves Chara is the embodiment of ATK and DEF. Thus their Type 8 Immortality rating as they rely on it. Infinite doesnt really matter when youre fighting the complete embodiment of what you have as infinite.
And here's some other things.
Hyper Goner erased just the timeline. Proof of this is in dialouge "Enough playing around! It's time to purge this timeline once and for all!"
notice it says timeline, not world.
During Asriel's true form fight, and mind you he was using his full power. a line of dialouge said "The whole word is ending"
What this means? The entire verse was about to collapse, as Asriel was breaking it and doing anything else to destroy it. and this was at FULL POWER.
Chara did that in one shot.
One more thing;
During the True Reset, you completely erase the memory, influence, and effect of Asriel and Omega Flowey. However you cannot erase Chara's consequence without completely erasing the game files.
anyways, Revision Proposal:
Give Chara 2-A
