Undead Unluck Discussion Thread

[SDTaro]

What?

Which part was confusing?

 

[Arkenis]

Which part was confusing?

The whole thing. When was he cut in half by a small meteor? And how does Fuko’s unluck meteors mean he doesn’t scale to high 7-a?

 

[Spinoirr]

The whole thing. When was he cut in half by a small meteor?

This chapter page 9

 

[SDTaro]

The whole thing. When was he cut in half by a small meteor? And how does Fuko’s unluck meteors mean he doesn’t scale to high 7-a?

Is the Meteor Large Mountain lvl? If not then his dura just got debunked by a weaker attack.

 

[Arkenis]

Is the Meteor Large Mountain lvl? If not then his dura just got debunked by a weaker attack.

Fuko's Unluck usually tends to cause damage regardless of the person's dura if its strong enough, which she used one of her most strongest Bad Bullets. Also the meteors came from space, it's not too much to think the meteors had enough KE to go right through him. He's otherwise strong enough to take hits from Fuko, one of the physically strong members of the Union comparable to Feng and Shen.

 

[Zabazab]

Characters with strong regeneration tend to have a very high number of durability anti-feats, as a result of them or the author wanting to show off the regen.

 

[SDTaro]

Fuko's Unluck usually tends to cause damage regardless of the person's dura if its strong enough, which she used one of her most strongest Bad Bullets. Also the meteors came from space, it's not too much to think the meteors had enough KE to go right through him. He's otherwise strong enough to take hits from Fuko, one of the physically strong members of the Union comparable to Feng and Shen.

If it's strong enough then his dura isn't what you're saying it is. Andy tanked one to the face. We've seen this meteor shower before and it only destroyed a town. I'm not seeing the basis for large mountain for ONE meteor.

 

[Arkenis]

If it's strong enough then his dura isn't what you're saying it is. Andy tanked one to the face. We've seen this meteor shower before and it only destroyed a town. I'm not seeing the basis for large mountain for ONE meteor.

All meteors aren't the same. And you just ignored everything I said about Fuko's Unluck.

Characters with strong regeneration tend to have a very high number of durability anti-feats, as a result of them or the author wanting to show off the regen.

And they also have durability feats.

 

[SDTaro]

All meteors aren't the same. And you just ignored everything I said about Fuko's Unluck.


And they also have durability feats.

Her unluck doesn't just cause damage because it's unluck. That's why I said Andy tanked one to the face. What's the difference between these meteors and the ones from the poil arc? They come from space in both instances. There's really no proof this one meteor is large mountain at all.

 

[Zabazab]

Andy died to a train in chapter 1. It's a regen thing.

 

[Arkenis]

Her unluck doesn't just cause damage because it's unluck.

It does. She's hurt several people with Unluck with random things they otherwise don't scale to. Andy had his legs broken by a box falling on them yet the guy has tanked numerous things stronger than that. And again, this is one of her strongest Bad Bullets, no duh its gonna do more damage.

That's why I said Andy tanked one to the face. What's the difference between these meteors and the ones from the poil arc? They come from space in both instances. There's really no proof this one meteor is large mountain at all.

The difference is one could barely hurt a ch 1 Andy while another ripped straight through 101 Ruin.

Andy died to a train in chapter 1. It's a regen thing.

Yet tanked people stronger than that later on. Idk why ya are misunderstanding Unluck this much.

 

[SDTaro]

Andy died to a train in chapter 1. It's a regen thing.

I agree the dura for them isn't really stagnant

 

[SDTaro]

It does. She's hurt several people with Unluck with random things they otherwise don't scale to. Andy had his legs broken by a box falling on them yet the guy has tanked numerous things stronger than that. And again, this is one of her strongest Bad Bullets, no duh its gonna do more damage.


The difference is one could barely hurt a ch 1 Andy while another ripped straight through 101 Ruin.


Yet tanked people stronger than that later on. Idk why ya are misunderstanding Unluck this much.

You're not proving the difference between the meteors. Using your own argument, the meteors from the spoil arc came from space just like these. So they must have the same KE and such, right? A meteor shower destroyed a town. One meteor from the same type of meteor shower is now large mountain? No lol.

 

[Arkenis]

You're not proving the difference between the meteors. Using your own argument, the meteors from the spoil arc came from space just like these. So they must have the same KE and such, right? A meteor shower destroyed a town. One meteor from the same type of meteor shower is now large mountain? No lol.

Meteors have different KE, its not something to prove, its merely a fact. And a meteor shower vs one meteor isn't a comparable comparison idk why you keep bringing it up. And I have proven the difference with Fuko's Bad bullet lmao. Reread what I'm saying so you understand the manga.

 

[SDTaro]

Meteors have different KE, its not something to prove, its merely a fact. And a meteor shower vs one meteor isn't a comparable comparison idk why you keep bringing it up. And I have proven the difference with Fuko's Bad bullet lmao. Reread what I'm saying so you understand the manga.

So prove the difference in KE between the meteors. And yes, it is a valid comparison because you're saying one meteor is doing more damage than the whole shower from the spoil arc despite both showers coming from space. That doesn't make sense.

 

[Zabazab]

Yet tanked people stronger than that later on. Idk why ya are misunderstanding Unluck this much.

Do you not understand that I'm agreeing with you?

I'm saying regenerators have wonky durability feats. Best example is Majin Boo.

 

[Arkenis]

So prove the difference in KE between the meteors. And yes, it is a valid comparison because you're saying one meteor is doing more damage than the whole shower from the spoil arc despite both showers coming from space. That doesn't make sense.

I don't have to prove the KE is different. That wasn't my argument, it's a secondary explanation since you don't understand how Unluck works, the main reason for the difference. Go take time to reread the manga so you can understand Unluck has dura neg properties that effect people regardless of their scaling depending on Fuko's likeness and if she's using a bad bullet.

Do you not understand that I'm agreeing with you?

I'm saying regenerators have wonky durability feats. Best example is Majin Boo.

I'm sorry. It seemed like you weren't. But yes I agree the dura can get wonky for characters with regen as their main thing.

 

[SDTaro]

I don't have to prove the KE is different. That wasn't my argument, it's an secondary explanation since you don't understand how Unluck works, the main reason for the difference. Go take time to reread the manga so you can understand Unluck has dura neg properties that effect people regardless of their scaling depending on Fuko's likeness and if she's using a bad bullet.


I'm sorry. It seemed like you weren't. But yes I agree the dura can get wonky for characters with regen as their main thing.

Yes you do but that's ok. I will just debunk this in a crt in the future. Unluck has never bypassed someone's dura just because it's unluck. You made that up.

 

[Arkenis]

Yes you do but that's ok. I will just debunk this in a crt in the future. Unluck has never bypassed someone's dura just because it's unluck. You made that up.

I didn't make anything up, the manga has represented Unluck as causing dura negation to characters like Victor for instance. Unless you genuinely think Victor is weak enough to be harmed by a damn train lmao. Unless you genuinely think Andy is weak enough to be harmed by a box of bananas falling on him or a train hitting him meanwhile he's tanking attacks from people like Shen, Feng, Billy, Shen's staff, or Top kicking him.

 

[SDTaro]

Did anyone peep how fast Fuuko and Ruin got to Japan from Russia? That's at least an MHS+ travel speed feat for them.

 

[SDTaro]

I didn't make anything up, the manga has represented Unluck as causing dura negation to characters like Victor for instance. Unless you genuinely think Victor is weak enough to be harmed by a damn train lmao. Unless you genuinely think Andy is weak enough to be harmed by a box of bananas falling on him or a train hitting him meanwhile he's tanking attacks from people like Shen, Feng, Billy, Shen's staff, or Top kicking him.

Or they are not as durable as you think they are. Fuuko does not amp her surroundings simply because they are a means for Unluck. All this shows is that dura for them is not consistent. If Andy gets stabbed as a result of unluck then that means he wasn't durable enough to tank it. The knife doesn't turn into a dura-negging knife lmao

 

[Arkenis]

Fuuko does not amp her surroundings simply because they are a means for Unluck.

No one said amp.

If Andy gets stabbed as a result of unluck then that means he wasn't durable enough to tank it. The knife doesn't turn into a dura-negging knife lmao

That isn't what that means.

 

[SDTaro]

sigh Anyway,

Did anyone peep how fast Fuuko and Ruin got to Japan from Russia? That's at least an MHS+ travel speed feat for them.

This should be considered when making Fuuko's profile if it stays consistent. I hate that Nico statement from one of the volume extras about speed. Messes up the scaling in some ways.

 

[Arkenis]

Fuuko's profile

I already made her profile.

 

[Spinoirr]

I already made her profile.

Should separate the characters ages between the two loops

Like loop 101 Gina wasn't listed in the alcohol tolerance chart (it was her loop 100 self), meaning she has to be under 18 (likely 16/17) also she is grouped together with other characters around her age, was a undercover student too

 

[Arkenis]

Should separate the characters ages between the two loops

Like loop 101 Gina wasn't listed in the alcohol tolerance chart (it was her loop 100 self), meaning she has to be under 18 (likely 16/17) also she is grouped together with other characters around her age, was a undercover student too

Fuko doesn't age. And Gina doesn't have a 101 key rn so there's no need.

 

[Spinoirr]

Fuko doesn't age. And Gina doesn't have a 101 key rn so there's no need.

I mean like Fuuko back when she did age normally

Also it's to show the characters are younger then their previous loop selfs, like they're basically separate characters even if there's no difference in power

 

[Spinoirr]

 

[Heoj]

YO, banger chapter, some of these ground to space feats are insane

 

[Cire]

Hey there! Is there a calc for when Top runs around the Earth? I remember him busting through clouds.

 

[Cire]

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[Arkenis]

Hey there! Is there a calc for when Top runs around the Earth? I remember him busting through clouds.

On verse page. Go there to see calcs

 

[Cire]

On verse page. Go there to see calcs

Gotcha. Others should scale to this feat, no? Especially the Master Rules and current Fuuko.

 

[Arkenis]

Gotcha. Others should scale to this feat, no? Especially the Master Rules and current Fuuko.

When did anyone block or tank his full speed?

 

[Cire]

The Master Rules can survive crashing into Earth after being launched to the Sun at speeds near the speed of light.

 

[Arkenis]

The Master Rules can survive crashing into Earth after being launched to the Sun at speeds near the speed of light.

When did they crash?

 

[Cire]

When did they crash?

Well I assume they had to land on Earth.

 

[Arkenis]

Well I assume they had to land on Earth.

But did they crash? And pretty sure we don't accept ke calcs at ls.

 

[Cire]

But did they crash? And pretty sure we don't accept ke calcs at ls.

We know that Andy crashed when he got back to Earth. The logical assumption is that they crashed as well. What are you implying? That they were protected by a forcefield?

 

[Arkenis]

We know that Andy crashed when he got back to Earth. The logical assumption is that they crashed as well. What are you implying? That they were protected by a forcefield?

Doesn't matter what the assumption is, can't do ke calcs at ls. There's also the fact that the destruction isn't represented at all. What moment are you talking about anyway?