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Uncountable infinite universes

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Hello is this enough for uncountable universes? PLEASE read carefully, this isn’t simply “2-A” which is only infinite universes


If EVERY POINT in TIME has infinite possibilities and a universe exist for each possibility, is this enough for uncountable universes.

Would appreciate if knowledge staff could chime in.
 
infinity^infinity if remember correctly is an uncountable infinity so if this fits that then yeah. (Not knowledge on tier 1)
 
Xxiaa said:
Hello is this enough for uncountable universes? PLEASE read carefully, this isn’t simply “2-A” which is only infinite universes


If EVERY POINT in TIME has infinite possibilities and a universe exist for each possibility, is this enough for uncountable universes.

Would appreciate if knowledge staff could chime in.
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Every point in time? Time consists of uncountably infinitely many intervals, so it’s Uncountable Infinity*Infinity (which just comes down to uncountable infinity).
 
Bump, I’d like a staff member to comment here, or someone really knowledgeable.
 
Xxiaa said:
Hello is this enough for uncountable universes? PLEASE read carefully, this isn’t simply “2-A” which is only infinite universes


If EVERY POINT in TIME has infinite possibilities and a universe exist for each possibility, is this enough for uncountable universes.

Would appreciate if knowledge staff could chime in.
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Before I answer this, do all universes exist simultaneously, and us their still ways fir universes to be created?
 
TheUnshakableOne said:
Before I answer this, do all universes exist simultaneously, and us their still ways fir universes to be created?
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Yes to both, every singular moment in time contains infinite universes. With it being 4-D universes for all of them, just go off the quote I posted that has everything , well not really bc I don’t wanna give away too much but you get the gist
 
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If EVERY POINT in TIME has infinite possibilities and a universe exist for each possibility, is this enough for uncountable universes.
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yes indeed it is. best way to look at it is like a stc. a stc takes staic snap shots of a cosmology, even the infinitesimal moments. making aleph-1 snap shots of. the cosmology. in your cosmology its the same way, just each snap shot is its own universe. so itd be aleph-1 universes if what you said i actually true. now aleph-1 of any object leads to a higher object, so aleph-1 of 3d is 4d. aleph-1 of 4d is 5d so on and so forth. so overall the cosmology should be 4 dimensional, but assuming these all have a stc it should be 5D. now im not sure if new standards have been set for the tiering system, but as a collectoive multiverse it should be low outerversal. as its aleph-1 universes which qualifies for low outerversal (once tiering system is changed this will only be 5d)
 
Xxiaa said:
Yes to both, every singular moment in time contains infinite universes. With it being 4-D universes for all of them, just go off the quote I posted that has everything , well not really bc I don’t wanna give away too much but you get the gist
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If there are still mechanics that create universes it would indeed still be 5D due to uncountably infinite universes.

Otherwise, Low 1-A
 
Xxiaa said:
Hello is this enough for uncountable universes? PLEASE read carefully, this isn’t simply “2-A” which is only infinite universes


If EVERY POINT in TIME has infinite possibilities and a universe exist for each possibility, is this enough for uncountable universes.

Would appreciate if knowledge staff could chime in.
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Countable Universe = 2-B Uncountable Universe 2-A
 
Infinite^infinite wouldn't be uncountable infinity by any low 1-C scale cause it's still like a natural number and not comprised like a cardinality of a real number. These Possibilities would still be 4D objects by an infinite amount and above baseline 2-A but not low 1-C. Pretty much like how there's no amount of zero dimensional points that can form a one Dimensional line, not by multiplication or squaring by the power of infinite.
 
Ikelaggan said:
Infinite^infinite wouldn't be uncountable infinity by any low 1-C scale cause it's still like a natural number and not comprised like a cardinality of a real number. These Possibilities would still be 4D objects by an infinite amount and above baseline 2-A but not low 1-C. Pretty much like how there's no amount of zero dimensional points that can form a one Dimensional line, not by multiplication or squaring by the power of infinite.
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Wth man, infinite^infinite is uncountable infinite, literally Aleph-1 in set theory
 
Vietthai96 said:
Wth man, infinite^infinite is uncountable infinite, literally Aleph-1 in set theory
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Uhhhh, source to that claim cause infinite to the power of infinite is not Aleph-1 in set theory. Not to mention infinite^infinite has been tried before in execution and capped at 2-A unless there's a inaccessible size containing that infinite^infinite structure you don't get any higher.
 
Ikelaggan said:
Uhhhh, source to that claim cause infinite to the power of infinite is not Aleph-1 in set theory. Not to mention infinite^infinite has been tried before in execution and capped at 2-A unless there's a inaccessible size containing that infinite^infinite structure you don't get any higher.
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MLP was debated that if is cosmology is actually infinite^infinite or not, it have nothing to do with the math itself
 
Ikelaggan said:
Uhhhh, source to that claim cause infinite to the power of infinite is not Aleph-1 in set theory. Not to mention infinite^infinite has been tried before in execution and capped at 2-A unless there's an inaccessible size containing that infinite^infinite structure you don't get any higher.
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“Capped at 2-A” dude… Infinite^Infinite being Low 1-C was already accepted for MLP. That thread is just a cosmology upgrade that uses a different reasoning, and is getting derailed by one person who disagrees with MLP’s Infinity^Infinity.
 
ProfectusInfinity said:
“Capped at 2-A” dude… Infinite^Infinite being Low 1-C was already accepted for MLP. That thread is just a cosmology upgrade that uses a different reasoning, and is getting derailed by one person who disagrees with MLP’s Infinity^Infinity.
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Okay, if time as a timeline is containing all these Possibility points then yeah it would be low 1-C technically cause that every decimal point of time would have it's own infinite set then yeah I can see infinite^infinite used as a sequence to get Aleph-1
 
Low 1-C with universes involves an uncountable infinite set or Aleph-1. An Aleph-1 set is an infinite set composed of all infinite variations of something inside of it. So in this case its can never be reached by an infinite amount of universes. It can't even be reached by an infinite amount of universes branched from universes. It has to be basically be an infinite array of 2-A spaces with universes.

For your hypothetical example, if you have infinite amount of points that can branch into an infinite amount of different space-times, there is a good argument to be made for Low 1-C.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Low 1-C with universes involves an uncountable infinite set or Aleph-1. An Aleph-1 set is an infinite set composed of all infinite variations of something inside of it. So in this case its can never be reached by an infinite amount of universes. It can't even be reached by an infinite amount of universes branched from universes. It has to be basically be an infinite array of 2-A spaces with universes.

For your hypothetical example, if you have infinite amount of points that can branch into an infinite amount of different space-times, there is a good argument to be made for Low 1-C.
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Thank you brother. Would you mind tagging a few more staff? It’s completely fine if you can’t though still appreciate it
 
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