TYPE vs TYPE (ORT vs Crimson Moon)

[TheSilverKing14]

I was personally curious as to how the VSBW version of Type-Moon would fare against ORT since I did debate this with a friend off-site.

 

[KingNanaya]

incon. they are both practically featless and have essentially the same abilities with no ways of killing each other since they both have type 5 immortality.

 

[TheSilverKing14]

incon. they are both practically featless and have essentially the same abilities with no ways of killing each other since they both have type 5 immortality.

“Same abilities” Are you drunk bruv TM has Mystic eyes on the level of MEODP.

Further, beyond Jewel lies “Rainbow.” These ultimate mystic eyes, which blend and mix all seven colors of the rainbow like a kaleidoscope, are considered to be the mark of the King of the Moon. - Fate/Side Material - Encyclopedia: Noble Colour [Others], p.068

The link is here
https://www.tmdict.com/book/#fate-side-material

TM can use the moon drop that his descendant Arcueid used when Wallachia drew out 30% of her power.

https://www.tmdict.com/en/a.crimson-moon

TM should have Marble Phantasm since the TA were legit based off his DNA and shit.

https://www.tmdict.com/en/ku.marble-phantasm

Tm has a night arm called {Real of the world} which is heavily implied it created the true ancestors and he can use a move with it called Alt Nagel which is a giant wind that stretches to the heavens.
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Crimson_Moon#cite_note-Interview-8

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Crimson_Moon#cite_note-KTCrimsonMoonReal-18

Sounds like I am arguing for TM but I am not just pointing out he has way better abilities than ORT who has a slightly better marble phantasm ability called Crystal Valley which TM himself also has because he has the actual marble phantasm.

 

[KingNanaya]

“Same abilities” Are you drunk bruv TM has Mystic eyes on the level of MEODP.

I've said this once before: being on the same level as something doesn't mean you have that thing's effect. it's like comparing Enkidu's Enuma Elish to Artoria's Excalibur, and saying they can do the same thing because they both are anti fortress NPs. literally, all it says on the page is "soul manipulation via mystic eyes", which ORT still resists.

type 5 immortality

TM should have Marble Phantasm since the TA were legit based off his DNA and shit.

type 5 immortality

Tm has a night arm called {Real of the world} which is heavily implied it created the true ancestors and he can use a move with it called Alt Nagel which is a giant wind that stretches to the heavens.

type 5 immortality

Sounds like I am arguing for TM but I am not just pointing out he has way better abilities than ORT who has a slightly better marble phantasm ability called Crystal Valley which TM himself also has because he has the actual marble phantasm.

type 5 immortality

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

I know they're not on the profile yet, but with the stuff ORT got in Lostbelt 7 and how featless Crimson Moon is, ORT should stomp.

 

[KingNanaya]

I know they're not on the profile yet, but with the stuff ORT got in Lostbelt 7 and how featless Crimson Moon is, ORT should stomp.

Type 5 Immortality

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Type 5 Immortality

Fair enough.

I was going to type a response, but I don't know for sure whether ORT absorbed the Servants and gained their abilities, or it just absorbed them (if it was the former, ORT might have some counters). Plus, that stuff isn't on the profile yet, so it's irrelevant for how we do versus debates.