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Two different calcs for Boros' ship

Therefir said:
Why would it need the curvature formula? It is far enough.
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Probably, but it's still almost 2,000 kilometres closer than the part they're comparing.

Edit: Actually, nvm. I remember trying to revise the Akira crater for this reason, but the calc ended up being almost exactly the same.
 
If we only take Saitama's speed and mass after the jump, it doesn't even reach 7-B.

But taking into account how much it affected the ship, I think the author's intention was to represent that Saitama landed with the same force with which he jumped.

By the way, I'm beginning to understand why the ship calcs got 6-A and High 6-A results. The formula used to find Saitama's momentum put his speed at FTL, and then the calculators used the relativistic KE formula to find the energy of Saitama's landing.

Needless to say, the use of FTL KE is not allowed as far as I know.
 
I have a question though, as we know in the anime the tilting of the ship is extremely slow, over 16 seconds.

However in the manga, it occurred instantly, the impact of Saitama's jump is still there even after the ship was fully tilted.

Should I go with a 1 second timeframe and see what I get?
 
Maybe we can find the exact strength of the ship to get a better scale for Boros' strength.
 
LordTracer said:
Sure, I don’t see the harm in trying it.
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I got Country level+ using 1 second.

I still think using Saitama's Moon jump is better.

If we calculated the feat using Saitama's speed and weight alone, we would only get:

Saitama's Speed = 384400000/19.15 = 20073107.04 m/s

Saitama's Weight = 70 Kilograms

Saitama's KE = 1.41*10^16 Joules or 3.37 Megatons of TNT

This shouldn't be able to even slightly move the ship, and Tatsumaki's 6-C attack didn't move it either, which is why I think Saitama landed with the same amount of force with which he jumped, or at least that was the intention the manga was trying to portray.
 
Saitama was pleasantly surprised that he was able to get back to the ship from the moon. He probably could also get to the surface of the Earth. Do you admit that you risk making a jump of such force when there is a chance of accidentally destroying the continent.
 
Therefir said:
I got Country level+ using 1 second.

I still think using Saitama's Moon jump is better.

If we calculated the feat using Saitama's speed and weight alone, we would only get:

Saitama's Speed = 384400000/19.15 = 20073107.04 m/s

Saitama's Weight = 70 Kilograms

Saitama's KE = 1.41*10^16 Joules or 3.37 Megatons of TNT

This shouldn't be able to even slightly move the ship, and Tatsumaki's 6-C attack didn't move it either, which is why I think Saitama landed with the same amount of force with which he jumped, or at least that was the intention the manga was trying to portray.
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I agree to that?

Can we make the changes now
 
NikHelton said:
Saitama was pleasantly surprised that he was able to get back to the ship from the moon. He probably could also get to the surface of the Earth. Do you admit that you risk making a jump of such force when there is a chance of accidentally destroying the continent.
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Using this logic, 6-B+ would also not be an appropriate result, as although High 6-A and 6-B+ are quite far apart, it would still cause a worrying amount of destruction that would deface a considerable amount of the mainland.
 
So we have like 3 staff (Including me and calc member and 1 neutral on scaling Saitama's crater to Boros' ship dura. Is this fine to proceed with?
 
There are definitely better methods than 7-B for ship durability, If I'm not mistaken the ship's AP is High 7-A or 6-C then durability would just scale from AP or using PE (Assuming the ship is 2km high) would result in 1,263 Gigatons...

But I still believe that the lunar crater should be used for the durability of the ship.
 
Yeah, I'm inclined to just scale the moon crater. Makes less assumptions.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
So we have like 3 staff (Including me and calc member and 1 neutral on scaling Saitama's crater to Boros' ship dura. Is this fine to proceed with?
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I think it should be fine, yes.

The new Saitama jump calc should replace the old one as well.
 
Saitama must have lost a significant amount of his energy during the flight, you must take this into account.
The ship also started its fall after that, so it should be lower in durability.
Boros, meanwhile, damages a small part of the ship, preventing it from scaling up to a moon jump.
 
NikHelton said:
Saitama must have lost a significant amount of his energy during the flight, you must take this into account.
The ship also started its fall after that, so it should be lower in durability.
Boros, meanwhile, damages a small part of the ship, preventing it from scaling up to a moon jump.
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What? He spends mere nanoseconds in the atmosphere, there would be effectively no remaining drag.

Also, while the ship starts to fall, the actual metal of the ship is able to take it with only a medium sized crater. Boros (In MB) clearly does more damage to his ship with his attacks, he's simply not providing downward thrust when doing it.
 
Cryo123 said:
What? He spends mere nanoseconds in the atmosphere, there would be effectively no remaining drag.

Also, while the ship starts to fall, the actual metal of the ship is able to take it with only a medium sized crater. Boros (In MB) clearly does more damage to his ship with his attacks, he's simply not providing downward thrust when doing it.
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This. Boros in Released alone was able to destroy a sizable chunk of the ship and did more damage yo it then Saitama's moon jump ever did
 
The jump created much more serious damage, albeit cosmetically less. It completely destroyed the ship's stabilization and caused it to collapse, something Boros failed to achieve with any of his attacks. I guess it's better to scale the ship's durability to its AP or KE at the moment of tilt
 
NikHelton said:
The jump created much more serious damage, albeit cosmetically less. It completely destroyed the ship's stabilization and caused it to collapse, something Boros failed to achieve with any of his attacks. I guess it's better to scale the ship's durability to its AP or KE at the moment of tilt
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The ship was still floating fine tho? And the metals on top the ship barely received and sort of damage when Saitama slammed into it.
 
It's about internal. If Boros' explosions are surface destruction, then Saitama's jump is an impulse that goes to the entire object and which the ship could hardly absorb.

I mean, Boros scales below that.
 
NikHelton said:
It's about internal. If Boros' explosions are surface destruction, then Saitama's jump is an impulse that goes to the entire object and which the ship could hardly absorb.

I mean, Boros scales below that.
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The ship's gravity core was overtaxed trying to compensate for the impact. That's not internal damage, (Pushing down a seesaw does not cause it internal damage), and all of Boros' clearly more powerful attacks were horizontal, meaning they wouldn't put any strain on the gravity core in the first place.
 
You forgot to remove the Orochi scaling and also, link the ship to Boros' profile
 
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