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Twenty-Fifth Baam vs. Neferpitou

Quibster

She/Her
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  • Speed Equalized
  • Baam's Hidden Floor Arc key is being used; At least High 7-C, Low 7-B with 1st Thorn.
  • Pitou is High 7-C, higher with Terpsichora, even higher as a Corpse Puppet
  • Battle takes place within the Chimera Ant Hive located in NGL (HxH)
  • Both begin 30 feet apart from each other.
Pitou: 0

Twenty-Fifth Baam: 0

Incon:
 
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Pitou just put her aura up, and make Baam unable to fight due to fear, since Baam can't counter.

Otherwise, she gonna get destroyed in CQC.
 
Bam resists mind hax and empathic hax. Fear hax is a subset of empa hax.
Bam wrecks with dura neg
 
How similar is Shinsoo compared to Nen? Other HxH vs ToG discussions say they both interact in some way.
 
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How similar is Shinsoo compared to Nen? Other HxH vs ToG discussions say they both interact in some way.
well Shinsoo is something that is basically the air and water of the tower. At the same time it is the ki-type energy that can be molded into anything, even used to manipulate space. It permeates the world.
The old threads are old, idk if the standards would remain the same way.
 
To what extent? Nefer’s aura affected people who already resisted prior Nen crushes like Hisoka’s. Nefer’s also causes madness to a greater extent.
ig if it's layered then Bam wouldn't resist it since in this key he doesn't have a layer...yet

anyways Ig it is the same argument as before man, who will strike first? Bam with his molecular immobilization+dura neg combo or the nen crush. Due to both being activated fast it becomes an incon match gg.
 
ig if it's layered then Bam wouldn't resist it since in this key he doesn't have a layer...yet

anyways Ig it is the same argument as before man, who will strike first? Bam with his molecular immobilization+dura neg combo or the nen crush. Due to both being activated fast it becomes an incon match gg.
Whats the dura neg?
 
Whats the dura neg?
Basically the combo goes like this
Bam uses reverse flow control
it molecularly immobilizes the opponent to the point where they can barely think
it has no time limit if the opponent has no resistance

then Bam pulls out the floral butterfly piercing technique
it inserts energy into an opponent
the energy the vibrates and blows up
even people with some resistance to shinsu (the energy) get their insides blown through
 
Additionally Bam has his shinsu black hole sphere which basically nullifies most powers it comes into contact with. It even affected attacks of tier 6 ppl.
 
Basically the combo goes like this
Bam uses reverse flow control
it molecularly immobilizes the opponent to the point where they can barely think
it has no time limit if the opponent has no resistance

then Bam pulls out the floral butterfly piercing technique
it inserts energy into an opponent
the energy the vibrates and blows up
even people with some resistance to shinsu (the energy) get their insides blown through
Nefer’s senses to something like this are high, so high he sensed Netero and the Grandpa coming from kms away off his feral instincts, if the threat of death is great enough, Nefer should be able to lock in and throw up his nen to block, enhance his perception to slow down time to dodge or counter before Baam tries to immobilize. Is this immobilization something Baam always starts off with?
 
Immobilization would put the corpse down. The doll also controls him, anyone with a brain would think to target the doll. But I remember the doll being invulnerable?
 
Nefer’s senses to something like this are high, so high he sensed Netero and the Grandpa coming from kms away off his feral instincts, if the threat of death is great enough, Nefer should be able to lock in and throw up his nen to block, enhance his perception to slow down time to dodge or counter before Baam tries to immobilize. Is this immobilization something Baam always starts off with?
in this keys he does use it often, especially against someone who isn't as powerful as him shinsu-wise.
Additionally the immobilization pretty much works by him raising his hand and just instantly immobilizing the opponent from a distance. 30 feet would be enough easily. Additionally it's gonna be kinda hard to block that since it isn't a visible attack, it is the control of energy inside a person basically.
 
Let's do it 😎
First, in TOG, the strength of the Mind and Soul scale to the Physical Body
Baam has Supernatural Willpower

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Baam has resistance to his body being controlled and also his ego being controlled and destroyed scaling from Beta
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The Thorn can overcome that resistance after 10 minutes
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Baam overcome the Thorn taking control of him at train city

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After that, Baam survived this
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Those Soul also have corruption, madness manipulation fusionism, biological modification: Basically, when he recieved the Soul, his body and mind should've collapsed due to their power as the first side effects, and the second side effects come after surviving the first are that their egos will fuse with your and form a single entity rewriting your physical appearance at the same time
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Baam even before leanring Shinwonryu was able to break free from the Rice Pot's Revolution which effects are Mind, Morality, Perception and Death Manipulation.
Revolution is a powerfull spell that makes you realize your True Self, True Power and True Fate by separating yourself from the influence of everything, Society, Others, Ideologies, false Notions and Boundaries and making you view everything as unreality/dream, even your perception of time become meaningless for you. Said Revolution has also been stated to kill you in the process by 2 knowlegeable and experienced beings in that matter.( "God" of Guardians and Data Khun Eduan being skilled enough to be able to recreate it using Shinsu)
Using the Thorn also put a lot of stress on his body
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And before that, just before S2, Baam survived the insertion of a "Devil" inside his body
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You also have to keep in mind that even only the test before insertion killed 99 997 peoples
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There is also the usual https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Shinsoo manipulation and resistance

I don't think that there is any being in HxH that can beat Name Hunt Station Baam, let alone Hidden Floor Baam,
 
Let's do it 😎
First, in TOG, the strength of the Mind and Soul scale to the Physical Body
Baam has Supernatural Willpower
If this is arguing against Nefer's Nen crush then I don't think it helps Baam here.

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Baam has resistance to his body being controlled and also his ego being controlled and destroyed scaling from Beta
This first thing is a biological control of the body so its already not the same as Ren/Ten's mind manip.

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The Thorn can overcome that resistance after 10 minutes
Context is needed for this, it just says using the thorn, I don't know how this correlates to the Medina thing.

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After that, Baam survived this
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Those Soul also have corruption, madness manipulation fusionism, biological modification: Basically, when he recieved the Soul, his body and mind should've collapsed due to their power as the first side effects, and the second side effects come after surviving the first are that their egos will fuse with your and form a single entity rewriting your physical appearance at the same time

Where is madness coming from? Up to Hidden Floor arc, he has no resistance to madness, and Shinsoo page also shows no resistance to Madness. Nefer's madness is also enhanced compared to several other's like Hisoka. And this would type 3 madness. Don't think I need to say this, but the amount of souls don't matter.

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Baam even before leanring Shinwonryu was able to break free from the Rice Pot's Revolution which effects are Mind, Morality, Perception and Death Manipulation.
Revolution is a powerfull spell that makes you realize your True Self, True Power and True Fate by separating yourself from the influence of everything, Society, Others, Ideologies, false Notions and Boundaries and making you view everything as unreality/dream, even your perception of time become meaningless for you. Said Revolution has also been stated to kill you in the process by 2 knowlegeable and experienced beings in that matter.( "God" of Guardians and Data Khun Eduan being skilled enough to be able to recreate it using Shinsu)
Using the Thorn also put a lot of stress on his body
Can you please just link the referenced scans not the whole eps lol.

I don't think that there is any being in HxH that can beat Name Hunt Station Baam, let alone Hidden Floor Baam,
Also he already went incon against Meruem. Although looking at it, it seems the madness and fear stuff are the reason.

Inconclusive:

Meruem (Hunter X Hunter) Meruem’s Profile (Speed equalized and 7-B versions were used)
 
Where is madness coming from? Up to Hidden Floor arc, he has no resistance to madness
Just because it isn't in his mentioned profile doesn't mean he doesn't have it, and even that isn't correct since Mad Man is a part of Mind Man.
Resisting your your Mind/Ego being destroyed give you resistance to Mad Man Type 3
Look at Obito
Madness Manipulation (Type 3; He could withstand the Juubi's power tearing his consciousness apart, and eventually overpowered it with his sheer will and gained control of its power)
 
Just because it isn't in his mentioned profile doesn't mean he doesn't have it, and even that isn't correct since Mad Man is a part of Mind Man.
That is exactly what it means, especially when dealing with a resistance like madness type 3. Nefer's madness 3 is layered as well, it works on those who already resist madness 3. Madness manip being part of mind hax isn't exactly true, it's a subset that effects people differently, just because you resist one aspect of mind hax doesn't mean you resist all.
 
What are the general advantages each combatant has over each other here?
Baam has the immobilization that requires a hand gesture to activate, Nefer's got perception enhancements that allow her to perceive people in slowed motion and can increase her speed and power and reactions with her puppet and attack in less than 0.1s after activating.
 
Baam has the immobilization that requires a hand gesture to activate, Nefer's got perception enhancements that allow her to perceive people in slowed motion and can increase her speed and power and reactions with her puppet and attack in less than 0.1s after activating.
Baam Immobilization doesn't require hand gestures at all to activate, he only needs to say stop or to think about it, Baam has also slow motion perception (Baam can also see and feel aura btw, he will see the puppet ) he can also boost his stats with shinsu boost(he also has the AP advantage) or the Thorn.
Baam take everything except academic intelligence, it's a stomp.
 
Baam Immobilization doesn't require hand gestures at all to activate, he only needs to say stop or to think about it, Baam has also slow motion perception (Baam can also see and feel aura btw, he will see the puppet ) he can also boost his stats with shinsu boost(he also has the AP advantage) or the Thorn.
Baam take everything except academic intelligence, it's a stomp.
Where’s the slowed perception thing?
 
It's already over, i debunked all of Pitou's "wincons".
Baam wins it without any difficulty.

Baam FRA
 
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