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Then that Type 5 would no longer be Type 5. You make me want to implode into myself.
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Tusk act 4 vs Gold Experience Requiem
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It would mean GER can negate type 5 Acasuality.
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RtZ is causality hax. That isn't a thing that works in that situation. You are causing me physical pain.
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the fact is that noobody in jojo is acausality type 5, people just took it random and started to derail. Also i do belive that there are stuff that bypass acuasality type 5 (like sword logic if im not wrong)
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It negates, take notes here, Type 5 Acasuality. Sword Logic does this.
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I'm not saying there isn't stuff that can negate Type 5 for god's sake. I'm saying you can't do it via causality hax. RtZ is causality hax. Therefore GER can't effect Type 5 acausals, because RtZ is the only thing that makes it strong.
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And RtZ would bypass type 5 Acasuality. Other things do this just fine.
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Type 5 is unbound by anything related to cause and effects, fate, probability and time. Sword Logic does bypass and it have time manipulation (and also causality if im not wrong)
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Sword Logic isn't causality hax specifically is it????????? RtZ is. It can't effect Type 5. Sword Logic and RtZ are two entirely different things. When did I ever say Sword Logic couldn't negate Type 5? When? Tell me.
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I never said Sword Logic couldn't do these things. What are you even saying? I've never even ******* played Destiny.
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It's proving that something can causality hax an Acasual 5 by negating Acasuality Type 5. Swap out causality with time and you have what Sword Logic does.
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Does sword logic do this specifically via causality hax? If it doesn't, then my point still stands.
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化したレクイエム の能力は、存のス タンドと間じ物差し で比べるのは不可能。 あらゆる意志力をぜ ロにしてしまう能(or 最)力は、 本体のジョルノでさえも気 プいていないのだ。=~= "The ability of "Requiem" selected by "Arrow" is impossible to compare with the existing Stand and measuring rod. Even Giorno, the main body, doesn't care about the power that makes all willpower go away."
GER solos JoJo, GER is virtually invincible. I know this is a joke and such, but yeah, GER claps.
GER solos JoJo, GER is virtually invincible. I know this is a joke and such, but yeah, GER claps.
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never, but your reason imply similiar thing, i maded the expample of Sword Logic, that with your reasoning shouldn't bypass acausality type 5, but it does. Since type 5 is also unbound by time, sword logic also manipulates time. It's basically like ger but with causality. don't tell me "Acausality is just being unbound by causality" because it's false. and even if it is, Giorno rtz is also empatich manipulation, so what now?
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Ok, I don't wanna sound like a dick or like I'm trying to strawman you, but this is a nightmare to read. Also, when was it decided Type 5 was ever unbound by time? Gonna copy past the definition from the acausality page:
Type 5: Causality Transcendence: Characters with this type of Acausality transcend the normal boundaries of cause and effect, existing outside of the causality of a system. Even interacting with them normally may prove virtually impossible.
This mentions nothing about time, just causality and transcending it. And when did I ever bring up empathic manipulation? The argument is that causality hax can't affect a Type 5 acausal character. Other abilities don't play into the argument.
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Sir? are you ok? like really? you ask me what times have to do with causality? like if i change the past with time manipulation so i could change the future that isn't causality changing maded by time (past) manipulation? dude, read this before answering.
Again, dude, you should get some sleep, your argument was rtz can't negate acauaslity type 5, but rtz is also empatich manipulation.
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that cannot touch type 5 acasuality
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we are talking about what if in jojo there was a type 5 acausality.
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Empathetic manip can't work on it which you said it could
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I do need a considerable amount of sleep yes. But still, what the ding dong diddly dick are you talking about? Type 5 is literally transcending causality, you're outside any system of it, unaffected by it. You just brought up time manipulation. Not causality manipulation. I never said Type 5 couldn't be negated. I never said that. Never. Literally never. I'm saying, specifically via causality hax, which is the manipulation of cause and effect, you quite literally, by this site's standards on how abilities work, cannot affect a character with Type 5 Acausality because they are quite literally transcendent of causality completely. If Sword Logic (which you brought up) can negate Type 5 via causality manipulation, then the character in Destiny who has Type 5 that was negated, is no longer Type 5, because they can be affected by abilities that have something to do with causality, which they are supposedly completely transcendent of. The same applies to JoJo in the same way it applies to Destiny. Ok? Understand? Do I have to write it out again? Do I? And what the **** does empathic manipulation have to do with anything? Tell me. I demand penance.
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if there was an acasual type 5 in jojo, then it could
Causality is related to space-time, read the link that i sent to you. it's also the same thing on our page
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I know how the concept of causality works if I didn't I wouldn't be arguing about it.
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since they trascend causality, they are immune to changes in space and time
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This completely debunks your argument of being able to negate type 5 acausality, via causality hax, if that even is the argument. Tbh I'm so tired I didn't even care to remember what your arguing towards :/
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changes in space and time = causality, if you didn't know. either way, Sword Logic can garant to users that stuff and some negates type 5 with that so.
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What???? What???? WHAT????? Changes in space-time are causality!?!?! When was that a thing??? Nani??? You do realize Space-Time manipulation and causality manipulation are completely different abilities with different uses, right?
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ye, as you said you need some sleep. If i do like go in past and change something, meaning i maded a cause, and it will have effect. it did influenced all of the space-time, and yes, it's a thing
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Ok like seriously, I wanna emphasize how I'm trying not to be an asshole with you, but your articulating your argument so poorly along with my lack of sleep I have 0 idea how to respond.
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I mean, whatever, you can also check other profiles and stuff
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Would be better waiting for next chapter
