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So maybe it's me but is it not obvious for her to have 4th Wall Awareness? She literally sees her world as fake.
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Zencha9
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1-no she doesn't see the DR world as ficition if she was she wouldn't even be able to interact with the cast let alone die to a damn boulder
2-tsumugi lies about alot of stuff in game like how everyone was excited to be chosen as a participant of the killing game and it was shuichi said that she could've been lying in C6 and the theme of game is literally about lies why would anyone trust her words ?
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As the one who removed it: she doesn't see her world as fiction.
She just knows V3 is an in-verse show because she's litteraly one of the people working on it. That's like giving Bakuman guys 4th Wall because they know the mangas they wrote aren't real.
She just knows V3 is an in-verse show because she's litteraly one of the people working on it. That's like giving Bakuman guys 4th Wall because they know the mangas they wrote aren't real.
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oh yeah 4th wall breaks were always a thing so yeah i disagree with adding 4th Wall Awareness unless there's a feat where she breaks the 4th Wall in a way that has nothing to do with the plot/Chapter 6 stuff like if she adresses the player directly
otherwise i disagree
otherwise i disagree
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False Equivalence. Yes but they don't know that Bakuman itself is fake. They know the manga is fake. Unless you are trying to tell me the manga they wrote is Bakuman. You basically compared Superman controlling his writers to Goku being the narrator for one episode and told me because Goku can't control his writers, Superman can't control his writers.
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They all acknowledge DRV3 as a game with the part of them all turning into different personalities for DRV3, the audition tapes being proof of that.
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To attribute to the facts tho, the only thing that would make sense is for out of game Tsumugi and in-game Tsumugi to have different profiles. Which would be too much work for a simple change. All it would do is give in-game Tsumugi 4th Wall Awareness.
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They openly call it a game. Honestly, we don't get that much info on it. The closest we have to an answer of Danganronpa being real is Tsumugi's word. Which cannot be confirmed real and brings up some serious questions if it is.
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Except the fact that if it is "real"/ real-fake. A lot of impossible things happen.
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I'm not referring to when they talk about the killing school game.
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Also you say this but what's stopping that from happening? I'm not gonna take that and run away with that like an asshole but when you present an argument, pls be able to back it up.
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Tsumugi references many franchises, would that be fourth wall breaking?
V3 is metafiction, idk how do we treat that
V3 is metafiction, idk how do we treat that
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what's stopping what ? everyone having 4th wall break?
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Ye.
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I don't think that's 4th wall breaking.
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Also why is DRV3 not comparable to DRV2 but 1 is? By the logic we have been following so far, this wouldn't make sense.
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you mean why V3 doesn't scale to the rest ? it should be pretty obvious
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i already said that in most cases they are referring to the killing game itself when they talk about the game
but if want to show other feats that breaks the 4th wall feel free to post them
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DR1 is not comparable, they just have similar AP
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Still comparable. I actually think Sakura gets a stat for being comparable to Nekomaru.
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I meant that you have no evidence against it. References (while not being solid) are still evidence.
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evidence against what ? every time a character mentions a game in DR history ? i hope that you're joking
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No I'm basically asking for general evidence. Most arguments don't need to be disputed with direct points against. Just some form of evidence. But ofc you can't use a circumstantial point and refute them all.
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DR1 and DR2 do happen in the same universe though... The Hope Arc in Danganronpa 3 clearly shows that
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That isn't a reason to scale. By that logic everyone should be Monokuma level.
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Not really. Sakura is stated to be the strongest person apparently, and both her and Nekomaru are top tier students in strength. Nekomaru performed the 8-C feat. So shouldn't she logically scale above him?
Also, it's not a thread about this, why did you even bring this up?
Also, it's not a thread about this, why did you even bring this up?
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Being the highest listed doesn't make you strongest. The richest man on most list is Jeff Bezos. He is not the richest though. Vladimir Putin would be that person. So being listed as the strongest doesn't mean anything. Also I have never seen that stated. Kenshiro is even stronger so that's an unreliable source.
Because it would be a contradiction following the logic.
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that's not how ultimates works, she is stated to be the strongest not ranked the highest
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There are literally multiple Ultimates of a single category?
Zencha9
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what are you even talking about when i said that's not how ultimates work i was talking about how if you were the ultimate (something) student you will be the top at said (something)
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I don't know if you realize, but being a president doesn't immediately make you the richest, all of the country's benefits do not belong to the president. Putin's net worth is estimated at 70 billion $. But that's very, very irrelevant.
Kenshiro was the "Strongest Human Alive", but he gave that title to Sakura, even though she's not stronger. It was out of generosity, but apparently she did fight him. Then again, why is this even discussed on a thread about Tsumugi's fourth wall awareness?
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Are you saying multiple people of one category? They literally pick random people and give them the Ultimate Lucky Student. Are you telling me every one of those were the most lucky person?
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70 Billion? That's not his ACTUAL wealth, just listed.
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