Try beating this guy

[Senkoro]

So would a gun, now the question was whether or not it could negate imagine breaker. I say no probably not.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

This has gone off topic.

 

[Alakabamm]

uhh, no, that's not what I am referring to.

Othinus crushed Imagine Breaker. Not Touma. Imagine Breaker. When she was 50/50 Othinus.

Giorno would crush him.

 

[Senkoro]

This has gone off topic.

Basically GER wouldn't be able to withstand Aleister's magic.

Othinius crushed Imagine breaker with her hand. She didn't use magic. Touma negated Gungnir with his hand, which was a magical object that allowed Othinius to control her powers.

Sure Giorno may win, but he can't use his negation to zero on Touma, I doubt it would work.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

GER would be able to withstand his magic. As his attacks will be null and void because he himself is not above causality (GER's level to be specific) , which leaves him very vulnearable to GER's hax.

Immeasurable Speed may only allow him to lose even faster seeing as it would bring himself directly into GER's stand range which is enough to leave Aleister paralysed (seeing as he is not above GER's level of causality) , giving GER the oppurtunity to use LOD punch sealing his fate. Durabillity means nothing when GER can just bring the events of his death to zero.

 

[Senkoro]

So what you're telling me is that GER is going to work against this guy:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/High_Priest

Someone who Aleister was able to kill with a bit of preparation time, and not just him, 8 others with the same tier as him.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

If Aleister with prep time can beat down 5D beings who are acausual then yea GER wont be able to work.

If these beings are not 5D and Acausual then Aleister has a horrifcly bad time against GER.

 

[Alakabamm]

Multiversal causality manipulation >>> GER

 

[Senkoro]

If Aleister with prep time can beat down 5D beings who are acausual then yea GER wont be able to work.
If these beings are not 5D and Acausual then Aleister has a horrifcly bad time against GER.

Not 5-D, just infinite 4-D, due to the tier. Does that count?

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Multiversal causality manipulation >>> GER

I don't see how any amount of causality manipulation is supposed to harm a being (GER) who is acausual. Someone who is completely immune to all forms of it in the first place.

There is also the problem that the durability of these beings is rather astonishingly compared to there AP bad seeing as Aleister could take them down despite his AP difference. So I don't see how they would be able to withstand GER's hax.

 

[Senkoro]

Simple. Aleister had magic, he also did some research beforehand and waited for the right moment to strike. He used a spell that weakened them infinitely before finishing them off. They needed to be weakened infinitely as by simply moving they would destroy the world. Unfortunately weakening isn't the same as destroying, so Aleister only was shown to have destroyed an alternate world.

That's why Magic in index > science/laws of physics

These magic gods were envious of Othinius who could move aroound without destroying the world. That's just how much power they had.

 

[Alakabamm]

Multiversal causality manipulation >>> GER

I don't see how any amount of causality manipulation is supposed to harm a being (GER) who is acausual. Someone who is completely immune to all forms of it in the first place.
There is also the problem that the durability of these beings is rather astonishingly compared to there AP bad seeing as Aleister could take them down despite his AP difference. So I don't see how they would be able to withstand GER's hax.

GER is not acasual, he is outside of time and space. He is not immune to causality manipulation.

 

[Alakabamm]

Aleister didn't take them down...

Stop with the misleading stuff or I will close the thread.

They sealed their own power. One got blown up by a Golden Retriever and the others were exiled by Kamisato.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Then why is GER listed as such here? I remember having a talk with Lord Kav on what makes a character acausual and he mentioned something about causality being used in some way. I might of remembered the conversation wrong so don't take my word for granted here.

But it would be best to find out why GER is listed as such in the first place.

 

[Alakabamm]

No clue. I disagree with it. It's also not on Giorno's page.

 

[Senkoro]

Then how did Aleister get the better of the Zombie guy? They had to divide their own power by infinite to walk on the real world.

The spell that was cast was supposed to weaken them so they walk in the real world without destroying it, but Aleister had the power to rewrite that spell to weaken them even further.

World Rejecter defeated the weakened gods, but the Zombie guy was on a cross even before Aleister forced the other gods into the real world.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

Fair enough. Perhaps make a thread and resolve the issue or just to see reasoning to why its there in the first place.

 

[Senkoro]

At any rate we seem to be going off topic. Is there person who is tier low 2-C or lower that can defeat Aleister? Or team fo that matter.

 

[Alakabamm]

The power to alter the spell doesn't mean he beat them. They sealed themselves.

They had already sealed themselves before she got crucified and it was probably Noukan that did it, not Aleister.

 

[Senkoro]

But Noukan the dog managed to take on the Magic Gods? Even if he was a Kihara.

Aleister probably can't beat them in a fair fight, but the power to alter the spell of someone infinitely more powerful than Othinius is probably worth something.

 

[Alakabamm]

Nah, it was after he weakened himself