Trunks fights his grandfather (0-1-0)

[TegamiBachi25]

This is Pre second HBTC Cell saga SSJ future trunks vs King Vegeta. Speed is equalized and fight takes place on namek.

Grandson:

Grandfather: 1

Inconclusive:

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Pre second HBTC Future trunks in SSJ scales to 81.514 Quettatons while king Vegeta scales greater than Toei saiyan saga Goku at 84.3 quettatons

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Interesting combination, I honestly wonder if the fact that Trunks is in SSJ affects the thinking of this battle against King Vegeta, maybe hesitating or something.

 

[Mickey1940]

Pre second HBTC Future trunks in SSJ scales to 81.514 Quettatons while king Vegeta scales greater than Toei saiyan saga Goku at 84.3 quettatons

Trunks can transform into SSJ Grade 3 which should put him in the same ballpark as the calc that's accepted for 50% Cell Saga Mastered SSJ Goku (since many parts of the scaling chain are "Stronger Than" statements which aren't taken into account on the chain), meaning Trunks scales to about 163.028171893 Quettatons, about double of King Vegeta, although he will be significantly slower. Trunks also massively outskills due to having more significant martial prowess and better training

the problem is King Vegeta just goes monke and it's all over. King Vegeta is capable of creating Power Balls, and due to his x10 speed amp when doing so (on top of Trunk's self-speed nerf), there's no way Trunks can cut off his tail or blow up the power ball, and King Vegeta bludgeons him into oblivion

 

[Nierre]

interesting

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Trunks can transform into SSJ Grade 3 which should put him in the same ballpark as the calc that's accepted for 50% Cell Saga Mastered SSJ Goku (since many parts of the scaling chain are "Stronger Than" statements which aren't taken into account on the chain), meaning Trunks scales to about 163.028171893 Quettatons, about double of King Vegeta, although he will be significantly slower. Trunks also massively outskills due to having more significant martial prowess and better training

the problem is King Vegeta just goes monke and it's all over. King Vegeta is capable of creating Power Balls, and due to his x10 speed amp when doing so (on top of Trunk's self-speed nerf), there's no way Trunks can cut off his tail or blow up the power ball, and King Vegeta bludgeons him into oblivion

So vote for Grand Dad? Or trunks beats him before he goes great ape is more likely?

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

the problem is King Vegeta just goes monke and it's all over. King Vegeta is capable of creating Power Balls,

Forget a power ball, due to SBA, wouldn't the battle be during a full moon night, allowing instant monke? (unless op changes the starting time ofc)

Time: The time and date are chosen in such a fashion that all characters are at their strongest. Paradoxes like it being night for one character, while being day for another are acceptable here. If extreme advantages are generated via this regulation to one side, a balanced alternative should be discussed in the thread.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Forget a power ball, due to SBA, wouldn't the battle be during a full moon night, allowing instant monke? (unless op changes the starting time ofc)

I can change locations from earth to anywhere else like supreme kai planet so king Vegeta would be forced to create a power ball and can’t wait for a full moon

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

I can change locations from earth to anywhere else like supreme kai planet so king Vegeta would be forced to create a power ball and can’t wait for a full moon

Whatever works to prevent instant monke beatdown.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

location changed to Planet Namek

 

[Mickey1940]

location changed to Planet Namek

nothing changes

King Vegeta gets outskilled early then he go monke gg

 

[TegamiBachi25]

nothing changes

King Vegeta gets outskilled early then he go monke gg

So vote for monke then?

 

[Mickey1940]

So vote for monke then?

yup

 

[Livinmeme]

DBZ canon version is probably getting upgraded (atleast until cell)

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Grandson: 0

Grand Dad: 1

 

[TegamiBachi25]

bump