Transformers: Primus speed upgrade

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

Unicron Trilogy Primus is currently listed at Relavistic, but I feel he should be FTL to FTL+ in combat.

Based on this. At 2:58, it was stated lasers move at light speed, but lasers have been consistently dodged by the likes of Prime in his base form. Then we have Wing Saber, who traveled from the edge of the Solar System to earth in a short time frame. Low balled to a half hour, that means that he should've just been moving at FTL+ speeds if I'm correct.

Primus is far superior to them to the point that it's laughable, even after boosts in power.

Now, I know Iustitia Prime was the TF expert and is no longer on the wiki, however his reasoning for the Relavistic speed rating was "Planet sized robot moves with alarming agility". There isnt any real reasoning behind the rating given.

Opinions?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

FTL seems reasonable.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

There's also the feat where he destroys the Unicron singularity, but I'd need a lot of community input. Ant has already let me know that that them being 4D instead of the current Multi-SS rating can't be done without more input, so if this gets enough, I'll add it in.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Hmm, i think destroying a singularity is impossible as it requires infinite energy, think that might be unquantifiable.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

I can go a bit in depth for better context on it if you want, going from what caused it, and it's level of power.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Well this is about speed not ap, but if you to discuss that you should turn this into a transformers revision thread, and get all you to be changed in this thread.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

Well, I suppose I'll wait to see if this thread gets enough attention first. If it does, then I'll change it.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I think that this seems reasonable, but Unicron and Primus can move quickly throughout different parts of the universe, so that would at the very least give them MFTL+ flight speed.

I also agree that given that Iustitia is permanently missing from the wiki, I suppose that we will have to try to manage future Transformers revisions without him.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

I'd venture to say to add a "possibly" for travel speed. In the Unicron Trilogy, we didn't see them really do anything of such magnitude. It's still possible though.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

Bump

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I still think that this seems reasonable. It is too bad that we do not have some Transformers experts that could clean up all the profiles in general.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

So should we put his combat speed in then? If FTL, I'd say an "at least" or "FTL+" rating is reasonable, given several increases in power for lesser characters at such speeds.

I can possibly help with anything relating to the Unicron Trilogy, however I don't think I can anything else.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that FTL+ seems reasonable.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

I feel it explains itself enough, but if it requires more insight, is it possible you could highlight this thread?

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose so.

 

[Reppuzan]

Seems alright to me. The laser dodging should probably be calced though, just for safety.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, that would likely be best.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Hmm, is there a video of the feat where Primus dodges said lasers? Looking at the video for the video linked in OP's post, it does seem like Optimus has no issues dodging said laser beams.

Optimus combined with Wing Saber should have FTL speed at the very least.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

Well, Cybertron Optimus does have FTL speed already, but that's a low end. It should be higher scaling from Wing Saber when coming to earth. Also, his attack potency needs cleaning up. I had placed him at those planet level stats, but after going through the series I found that the start of the series may confirm them to be 4D. Although there's another feat I wanna ask about.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Is there an actual subbed version of the Transformers Cybertron series instead of the dubbed version? The dubbed version would change the meaning of some of the statements that are said in the original Japanese version.

Do you know which episode does Wing Saber comes down to Earth from the other end of the Solar System?

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

There is a sub, but the thing is they are somewhat different. One difference is that Galaxy Force apparently took place a year after Energon, while Cybertron, the American version, takes place years after Energon.