Transformers General Discussion

[LordTracer]

Don't look it up. For your own good, never look up Kiss Players.

 

[Genericstickman]

If you want to know how bad it is think of Generation 2, but instead of being overly 90s instead it's much worse

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

BTW are their any plans to add Cyberverse characters?

 

[Iisdude1]

Is there going to be a g1 unicron profile?

 

[LordTracer]

I think the 5-B/5-A statistic on Unicro covers that.

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

I think the 5-B/5-A statistic on Unicro covers that.

Yeah, that's already there.

 

[Caleb3429]

BTW are their any plans to add Cyberverse characters?

Maybe, eventually. We have so many other continuities to go over first, so it'd be a while.

 

[XDragnoir]

Btw, the Predacons (the way they are shown in Transformers Prime) are not used in any other continuity?

 

[Caleb3429]

Btw, the Predacons (the way they are shown in Transformers Prime) are not used in any other continuity?

No, most of the time the Predacons are five specific individuals (Razorclaw, Rampage, Tantrum, Headstrong, and Divebomb) who can combine to form Predaking.

 

[XDragnoir]

Man, such a waste of a good concept. But thank you anyway.

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

The prime version is cool and all but I prefer the G1 concept personally.

 

[EightAte8]

The prime version is cool and all but I prefer the G1 concept personally.

Well the G1 version is just a combiner team, right? Like there's no special backstory for the G1 Predacons, I think.

 

[LordTracer]

I prefer TFP's Predacons, personally.

 

[XDragnoir]

Doesn't the Beast Wars continuity have predacons as well?

 

[Crabwhale]

Yes, but in that one they're just descendants of the Decepticons.

 

[LordTracer]

I still question why their activation code was "terrorize" and they were called Predacons even though Terrorcons were a thing.

 

[XDragnoir]

At least they aren't just a combiner team. But is readin/watching it worth? I am not an expert in franchise, btw.

 

[LordTracer]

Beast Wars is definitely worth a watch. It's pretty good.

 

[Caleb3429]

I like Razorclaw from G1, and the rest of them are pretty cool as well. I prefer the concept of Prime however. I would have loved to see TFP designs of the G1 Predacons like this.

 

[EightAte8]

The only member of the G1 team who hasn't appeared in the Aligned continuity is Razorclaw, the team's leader...

 

[EightAte8]

 

[Caleb3429]

Lmao. He's just too good for it, I suppose.

 

[Caleb3429]

Ok, so I think it's far past time we address the IDW scaling chain. This has become a problem on multiple threads for users who aren't as familiar with the verse as we are.

In my opinion, this is what it should be.

Shockwave >> Optimus and Megatro (Who both tanked blasts from Shockwave) >> Nova Prime (Because Optimus stomped Nova) >> Galvatro = Arcee > Overlord = Sixshot = Black Shadow >> Most other IDW Transformers.

Another thing to note, I believe that Nova is baseline Low-2-C, whereas Shockwave is around two times that.

 

[EightAte8]

Ok, so I think it's far past time we address the IDW scaling chain. This has become a problem on multiple threads for users who aren't as familiar with the verse as we are.
In my opinion, this is what it should be.

Shockwave >> Optimus and Megatro (Who both tanked blasts from Shockwave) >> Nova Prime (Because Optimus stomped Nova) >> Galvatro = Arcee > Overlord = Sixshot = Black Shadow >> Most other IDW Transformers.

Another thing to note, I believe that Nova is baseline Low-2-C, whereas Shockwave is around two times that.

Didn't Black Shadow beat down Optimus and Magnus simultaneously, though?

 

[Caleb3429]

Didn't Black Shadow beat down Optimus and Magnus simultaneously, though?

He did, but keep in mind that this is a comic series that ran for over a decade. Sometimes things won't appear to be very consistent, and this is one of those things. One could also assume Optimus simply became stronger as the series went on.

 

[LordTracer]

Didn't Optimus also beat Sixshot (with difficulty) early in the series?

 

[EightAte8]

I'd figured as much as well, but just wanted to make sure. And that's also a totally valid response, especially considering that it'd have been a younger Optimus who was likely less sure of himself, and that sort've thing's been shown to affect how well he can fight.

 

[EightAte8]

Didn't Optimus also beat Sixshot (with difficulty) early in the series?

I'm not sure chronologically when that would've taken place, but I'm pretty sure that the fight with Black Shadow was a long time before that.

 

[Caleb3429]

I'm not sure chronologically when that would've taken place, but I'm pretty sure that the fight with Black Shadow was a long time before that.

This is true. Black Shadow's rout of the Autobots, including Prime and Magnus, happened very early on in the War. He defeated Sixshot in 2009 on earth.

 

[EightAte8]

There's also the likelihood that the Phase Sixers got weaker over time, in addition to Optimus getting stronger. Whereas Optimus would get battered and broken while the Phase Sixers would clean shop, that'd also mean that Optimus would be rebuilt and improved while the Phase Sixers would remain static and maybe even somewhat wear down.

 

[LordTracer]

Maybe Prime should have some keys. What the keys would be exactly, I'm not sure, but he should have some.

 

[EightAte8]

Maybe Prime should have some keys. What the keys would be exactly, I'm not sure, but he should have some.

Like Orion Pax, then past and present Optimus Prime?

 

[LordTracer]

Yeah, something like that.

 

[Caleb3429]

Orion, During the War, and Post-War sound good to me.

 

[LordTracer]

Okay, Orion would be Low 2-C, as the Thunderwing feat currently on his profile was done as Orion Pax. Black Shadow overpowered Magnus and Optimus at the same time, so he could either be Low 2-C or 'At least Low 2-C.' The other Phase Sixers and Mid-War Optimus (and the likes of Megatron, Galvatron and Arcee) would scale to that. Then Post-War Optimus could have his current ratings of 'At least Low 2-C, likely 2-C' or maybe he could just be plain 2-C.

That's my take on it, at least.

 

[Caleb3429]

Seems about right to me.

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

Yeah sounds good to me.

 

[Caleb3429]

Just need one more.

 

[EightAte8]

One more what?

 

[Caleb3429]

Agreement with LordTracer's idea for an Optimus key.