Transformers cosmology possible revision ?

[Optimus.negz]

I saw the transformers cosmology and there are other feats that I saw that I think could be added, so I would like to know if we could use them for a possible revision.

• universe which has 12 super-symmetrical dimensions
• Vector prime says that the realm of the gods has an infinite amount of axial dimensions Also It is also said that the dimensions is not enough to describe this kingdom.
• Vector Prime Says Multiverse Looks Like Fractal Tree a 13 mathematical/axial dimensions

That's all. (also im new so be kind plz)

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

From what I gather, while the Ask Vector Prime tumblr page is made by people who did work on the original Ask Vector Prime facebook page, the tumblr page isn't officially licensed by Hasbro afaik. So I'm not sure if this truly usable because of that.

 

[Wikisource]

I'm not sure it would work like the current wiki standard dimension axes. Also you should have a conclusion or something after making statements and scans... Other than that I think I'll be neutral

 

[Optimus.negz]

From what I gather, while the Ask Vector Prime tumblr page is made by people who did work on the original Ask Vector Prime facebook page, the tumblr page isn't officially licensed by Hasbro afaik. So I'm not sure if this truly usable because of that.

unless I'm mistaken, this ask for Vector Prime is led by those who did the Facebook one and it is said that it would be a continuation

 

[Optimus.negz]

I'm not sure it would work like the current wiki standard dimension axes. Also you should have a conclusion or something after making statements and scans... Other than that I think I'll be neutral

Universe = Hyperversal
Multiverse = Hyperversal (already put in the vsbw, but I find the argument not very good)
Realm of god = high Hyperversal

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

unless I'm mistaken, this ask for Vector Prime is led by those who did the Facebook one and it is said that it would be a continuation

Yeah, but like I said, if it's not officially licensed by Hasbro, then it can't be canon. Unless you can find evidence of it being officially licensed, then we can't use it.

 

[Optimus.negz]

Yeah, but like I said, if it's not officially licensed by Hasbro, then it can't be canon. Unless you can find evidence of it being officially licensed, then we can't use it.

I'll go get it. And the 12 dimensions can be used to build other characters?

 

[Optimus.negz]

Yeah, but like I said, if it's not officially licensed by Hasbro, then it can't be canon. Unless you can find evidence of it being officially licensed, then we can't use it.

Also I would like to know why ramjet is not put Outerversal because you yourself said that it is relative to Vector prime?

 

[Optimus.negz]

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Yeah, but like I said, if it's not officially licensed by Hasbro, then it can't be canon. Unless you can find evidence of it being officially licensed, then we can't use it.

Look what I found

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Look what I found

That doesn't really change my point, it needs to be officially licensed by Hastak if we are to use it, otherwise we'd just be using unofficial material.

Also I would like to know why ramjet is not put Outerversal because you yourself said that it is relative to Vector prime?

He scales to Vector's avatars, which in turn don't scale to 1-A.

 

[Optimus.negz]

That doesn't really change my point, it needs to be officially licensed by Hastak if we are to use it, otherwise we'd just be using unofficial material.

Does the hasbro one still work?

 

[Wikisource]

Universe = Hyperversal
Multiverse = Hyperversal (already put in the vsbw, but I find the argument not very good)
Realm of god = high Hyperversal

I see, in that case, you can re-corrrect it again.

 

[Optimus.negz]

I see, in that case, you can re-corrrect it again.

emirp said its not canon

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Does the hasbro one still work?

Wdym?

 

[Optimus.negz]

Wdym?

I wanted to know if the others Vector prime works

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The Facebook Vector Prime is official. Just the Tumblr one isn't.

 

[Optimus.negz]

The Facebook Vector Prime is official. Just the Tumblr one isn't.

so, since Facebook's has migrated to Tumblr, it can't be used ?

 

[Optimus.negz]

The Facebook Vector Prime is official. Just the Tumblr one isn't.

and the 12d ?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

so, since Facebook's has migrated to Tumblr, it can't be used ?

It's not migrated, it's simply a continuation the previous writers made. Which again, is not licensed by Hasbro.

and the 12d ?

The text isn't referring to dimensions of the universe. Plus we already know that the standard TF universe has more dimensions than 12 anyway.

 

[Optimus.negz]

It's not migrated, it's simply a continuation the previous writers made. Which again, is not licensed by Hasbro.


The text isn't referring to dimensions of the universe. Plus we already know that the standard TF universe has more dimensions than 12 anyway.

ok

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

That doesn't really change my point, it needs to be officially licensed by Hastak if we are to use it, otherwise we'd just be using unofficial material.


He scales to Vector's avatars, which in turn don't scale to 1-A.

I mean the rules page says it's allowed if the source is reputable

OP can you find better evidence to support the tumblr posts?

 

[Executor_N0]

The Tumblr isn't an official continuation, just a fan-project to continue the structure of past works, but done by contributors of the TFWiki. It was acknowledged by the Facebook page as just that, a fan-project that is strictly non-canon.

My good friend Rhinox has alerted me to some strange multiversal transmissions, detected by his long-dormant instruments—another iteration of me seems to have made contact with the Quadwal cluster! He certainly is a charming fellow, although I can't speak to the veracity of his assertions—or his taste in armament. Unlike me, he seems strictly non-cannon.

This is even why the Tumblr posts aren't archived by TFWiki, as it's just fun head-canon.

In August 2020, a fan continuation of Ask Vector Prime was started as a Tumblr blog written by members of this very wiki, including some past contributors to the Facebook page, and received a shoutout on the Ask Vector Prime Facebook page. Like before, it accepts user submitted questions and offers possible backgrounds and continuations for every character and story under the sun. However, as this blog is not produced under license from Hasbro, the answers provided are not canon for the purposes of the wiki and should not be referenced in articles.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

isn't there a askvectorprime facebook answer where it's said even whatever dimensional thing fails to capture the uncountable infinities of the omniverse which implies that there are uncountable infinity of dimensions? Ok found it while I was writing this.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I believe uncountable infinities refer to dimensions since topology's dimensions are mentioned
would that be Low 1A?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The uncountable infinities are referring to universes, not dimensions.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

The uncountable infinities are referring to universes, not dimensions.

That sounds a bit wrong though to only limit it to universes especially with how it's saying what it is.

Imagine the strangest inhabited universe you can conceive of, places where gravity operates linearly and electromagnetism by the inverse cubed rule and topology has 13 basic dimensions instead of 17. How alien it must be. Then ponder the wildest universes those beings could articulate. Then realize that even these musings fail to capture the uncountable infinities that exist in the Omniverse.

That and more, much more, is what exists outside the Multiverse.

It's not just referring to the universes but also the musings a person thinks of these universes failing to capture the uncountable infinities which includes the 13-D and 17-D comparison as one of these musings.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

That sounds a bit wrong though to only limit it to universes especially with how it's saying what it is.


It's not just referring to the universes but also the musings a person thinks of these universes failing to capture the uncountable infinities which includes the 13-D and 17-D comparison as one of these musings.

He literally starts talking about how the standard Transformers universe has 17 dimensions, and how some universes in the omniverse have only 13 dimensions, that alone tells us their dimensions do not reach up to Low 1-A.

He then follows up about pondering how wild the universes in the omniverse are, and then mentions uncountable infinities afterwards. The uncountable infinites statements is referring to the many realities that exist within the omniverse, talking about how much they differ to ours.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I agree with your interpretation but I believe this would get them to 18D

if a 17 dimensional universe is a subset of an uncountable infinite series, the whole cosmology should be infinitely above 17D warranting 18D

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I agree with your interpretation but I believe this would get them to 18D

if a 17 dimensional universe is a subset of an uncountable infinite series, the whole cosmology should be infinitely above 17D warranting 18D

Uncountable infinites is referring to the omniverse, not the multiverse.

Plus we already know that dimensions in the Transformers' multiverse can already reach up to 21 dimensions so nothing here changes anything.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Uncountable infinites is referring to the omniverse, not the multiverse.

Plus we already know that dimensions in the Transformers' multiverse can already reach up to 21 dimensions so nothing here changes anything.

the star saber feats mention reality implying the whole cosmology which would include the omniverse

if one of the multiverses allow 21D then the omniverse should upscale to 22D no?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

the star saber feats mention reality implying the whole cosmology which would include the omniverse

if one of the multiverses allow 21D then the omniverse should upscale to 22D no?

The omniverse has barely anything to do with the events that happen within the transformers multiversal stories, so Nexus taking into account the omniverse is a stretch.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

saying reality will come to an end seems to me a clear way of author portrayal in saying "hey this deletes the cosmology all of it"


a lot of stories dont leave the galaxy or even solar system many of the times, we dont think their universes get left out during destruction statements, you could also include a statement about a structure (omniverse) without it being relevant, to help showcase the gravity of such a doomsday (thats the whole point of mentioning stuff like MULTIVERSES!! its meant to be pure glaze) device without needing to bring the omniverse into relevance as the concept of the whole cosmology wouldnt be relevant to the story afterwards

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

saying reality will come to an end seems to me a clear way of author portrayal in saying "hey this deletes the cosmology all of it"


a lot of stories dont leave the galaxy or even solar system many of the times, we dont think their universes get left out during destruction statements, you could also include a statement about a structure (omniverse) without it being relevant, to help showcase the gravity of such a doomsday (thats the whole point of mentioning stuff like MULTIVERSES!! its meant to be pure glaze) device without needing to bring the omniverse into relevance as the concept of the whole cosmology wouldnt be relevant to the story afterwards

Except the omniverse is literally separate to Transformer's cosmology, it's what exists outside Transformers' multiverse entirely and has rarely interacted with the main multiverse. Not to mention, the omniverse wouldn't really brought up years after the Nexus Prime statement.

Plus even if we did take the omniverse into account, it's not like it matters when the Star Saber already scales to the Tree of Life.