JohnCenaNation
He/Him- 3,220
- 296
According to our current VS Battles Wiki tiering scaling, we have majority of Top Tiers Toriko characters scaled to be Large Star level due to them either encountering a supernova or creating an attack that scales to a supernova itself. Unfortunately supernova varies in size according to fiction, so therefore we can't apply real life supernova logic to scale Toriko characters.
In the Toriko manga at least, we are explicitly given via narration by Don Slime a supernova explosion range of at least 5 lightyears which is beyond how big our real life solar system is. You can argue Don Slime's wouldn't be that large, as the dialogue seems to imply that, but it still doesn't make any sense for him to think NEO would die from a weaker attack than a supernova. You could still to debate large star level vs solar system I suppose, but at this point does it even really matter since we have a narration on how big a supernova can be?
Teppei, a fodder character easily scaled to be Solar System level because he was able to prevent the Earth from blowing up by simply applying knocking to it. According to an on-panel narration we were given by Pair, the explosion created from the Earth blowing would create an explosion greater than any known supernova there is. Before someone argues this is an hyperbole feat and an outlier feat compared to you being able to deactivate a real life nuke from blowing up, it isn't. It's not equivalent to deactivating a bomb at all, you have to actually stop the thing in question with knocking, like when Jirou stopped the rotation of the planet which had all kinds of side effects, and Teppei not only prevented the Earth from blowing up, but he prevented it from accumulating energy forever. Jiro even recognizes Teppei's talent to be his rightful successor.
Now, I'm not trying to argue for Multi-Galaxy level Acacia/Neo, but I'm trying to come up with a logical explanation on why this feat isn't outlier as many people in this wiki assumed to be. For once, no-one ever claimed NEO's eating of the universe was multi-galaxy level, it should at best be large star levelish, since we know it took place over time. We also see him eat a star on-panel so it's not a ridiculous thought that he's done it before, and anything you eat makes you stronger. But the thing is Neo was not even at his full power/awakened form until EOS, so we can't use the lowest end and highest standard Solar System ratio scaling of this wiki to say what he can or can't do, as he was constantly evolving and getting stronger throughout the entire set of end fights. Dude went from being murked by the Eight Kings to nearly killing all of them singlehandedly, with White Demon being the one only to end him for good whose upper limit power is unknown all together.
So yeah, that's all I have to say, even if the Multi-Galaxy feat gets rejected, the Solar System feat must be accepted no matter what.
In the Toriko manga at least, we are explicitly given via narration by Don Slime a supernova explosion range of at least 5 lightyears which is beyond how big our real life solar system is. You can argue Don Slime's wouldn't be that large, as the dialogue seems to imply that, but it still doesn't make any sense for him to think NEO would die from a weaker attack than a supernova. You could still to debate large star level vs solar system I suppose, but at this point does it even really matter since we have a narration on how big a supernova can be?
Teppei, a fodder character easily scaled to be Solar System level because he was able to prevent the Earth from blowing up by simply applying knocking to it. According to an on-panel narration we were given by Pair, the explosion created from the Earth blowing would create an explosion greater than any known supernova there is. Before someone argues this is an hyperbole feat and an outlier feat compared to you being able to deactivate a real life nuke from blowing up, it isn't. It's not equivalent to deactivating a bomb at all, you have to actually stop the thing in question with knocking, like when Jirou stopped the rotation of the planet which had all kinds of side effects, and Teppei not only prevented the Earth from blowing up, but he prevented it from accumulating energy forever. Jiro even recognizes Teppei's talent to be his rightful successor.
Now, I'm not trying to argue for Multi-Galaxy level Acacia/Neo, but I'm trying to come up with a logical explanation on why this feat isn't outlier as many people in this wiki assumed to be. For once, no-one ever claimed NEO's eating of the universe was multi-galaxy level, it should at best be large star levelish, since we know it took place over time. We also see him eat a star on-panel so it's not a ridiculous thought that he's done it before, and anything you eat makes you stronger. But the thing is Neo was not even at his full power/awakened form until EOS, so we can't use the lowest end and highest standard Solar System ratio scaling of this wiki to say what he can or can't do, as he was constantly evolving and getting stronger throughout the entire set of end fights. Dude went from being murked by the Eight Kings to nearly killing all of them singlehandedly, with White Demon being the one only to end him for good whose upper limit power is unknown all together.
So yeah, that's all I have to say, even if the Multi-Galaxy feat gets rejected, the Solar System feat must be accepted no matter what.
