Topaz's Stats Equal Unconventional Tourney- R1M1! Lord Garmadon vs Bardock (Xenoverse) (0/0/0)

[Topaz404]

Well, it is time
For the first match, we have Oni Lord Garmadon vs Bardock!
(funny that)

Anyways, fight takes place on Earth- all of Earth.
Bracket and Rules

Lord Garmadon: 0

Bardock: 0

Inconclusive: 0​

 

[DavidTPPM]

So what do they start with?

 

[Topaz404]

Actually, good point- since i know......neither of them lol

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Actually, good point- since i know......neither of them lol

That makes three of us...

 

[koopa3144]

Kinda neat that his match is kinda thematic since they're both the corrupted father of the MU.
So Bardock is probably going to start by scanning Garmadon to see his powers and abilities before attacking him with CQC and KI attacks. Does Garmadon have any way to stop Bardock from blitzing and one-shoting him with his transformations?

 

[Topaz404]

Kinda neat that his match is kinda thematic since they're both the corrupted father of the MU.
So Bardock is probably going to start by scanning Garmadon to see his powers and abilities before attacking him with CQC and KI attacks. Does Garmadon have any way to stop Bardock from blitzing and one-shoting him with his transformations?

just a reminder that all stats are equal, so that does include speed

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

just a reminder that all stats are equal, so that does include speed

BArdocks transformations, grant AP, Durability and Speed, amps.

 

[DavidTPPM]

So Bardock is probably going to start by scanning Garmadon to see his powers and abilities before attacking him with CQC and KI attacks. Does Garmadon have any way to stop Bardock from blitzing and one-shoting him with his transformations?

He has Spinjitzu which boosts the users perception and physical speed to where everyone around appears to be in slow motion. But that's about it I think.

 

[koopa3144]

just a reminder that all stats are equal, so that does include speed

The SSJ forms amp speed by their multiplier as well so Bardock will be much faster than Garmadon after he transforms since Garmadon's speed is equalized to Bardock's base speed.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

He has Spinjitzu which boosts the users perception and physical speed to where everyone around appears to be in slow motion. But that's about it I think.

The SSJ forms amp speed by their multiplier as well so Bardock will be much faster than Garmadon after he transforms since Garmadon's speed is equalized to Bardock's base speed.

Can you both post the current speed amps?

 

[Topaz404]

The SSJ forms amp speed by their multiplier as well so Bardock will be much faster than Garmadon after he transforms since Garmadon's speed is equalized to Bardock's base speed.

Right, forgot amps exist (and thus forgot to account for them)

(Why do I get the feeling Bardocks just gonna steamroll)

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

(Why do I get the feeling Bardocks just gonna steamroll)

No worries, Shuna has even better amps.

 

[Topaz404]

No worries, Shuna has even better amps.

Bro Shuna is on the other side of the bracket i just shot myself in the foot

 

[koopa3144]

Can you both post the current speed amps?

iirc SSj is 50x SSJ 2 is 100x and SSj 3 is 50x

 

[DavidTPPM]

Can you both post the current speed amps?

Spinjitzu doesn't have a stated multiplier. It's just shown that characters who could previously pose a threat and were semi-relative are basically getting statued by the user inside the Spinjitzu.
One thing to point out is that this speed amp is purely for combat speed as the statued characters can still clearly see the Spinjitzus coming at them, they just can't percieve what's happening inside of them

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

iirc SSj is 50x SSJ 2 is 100x and SSj 3 is 50x

stacked like 50 x 100 for ssj2 or just for each tier?

Also, could you send a link to the explanation thing, since I could have sworn it was much lower... (Like I thought it was 2 times boost, at most 5....)

 

[koopa3144]

stacked like 50 x 100 for ssj2 or just for each tier?

Also, could you send a link to the explanation thing, since I could have sworn it was much lower... (Like I thought it was 2 times boost, at most 5....)

The amps for the forms stack on base iirc.
Here's the current ap blog with the amps and sources. Also, I was wrong ssj 3 is 400x not 50x

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Here's the current ap blog with the amps and sources. Also, I was wrong ssj 3 is 400x not 50x

Thats AP, I mean speed...

 

[koopa3144]

Thats AP, I mean speed...

Heres the speed blog then

 

[Topaz404]

Alright so-
DB character does what DB character does best and amp themselves to high hell-
how does Garmadon counter?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Heres the speed blog then

That's manga multiplier, the ANime and manga have different speed amps, So I don't see why the Games would scale to the manga instead of the games.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Alright so-
DB character does what DB character does best and amp themselves to high hell-
how does Garmadon counter?

The problem here is we don't know the Speed amps...

The anime has times 2
The manga has times 20

And I have no idea what the games are,

See the issue?

 

[Topaz404]

So i checked Bardock's profile, and from what i see, he thankfully doesnt resist Stat Reduction/Power Null (unless thats covered by Ki). If Garmadon has that, he should be fine?

 

[koopa3144]

That's manga multiplier, the ANime and manga have different speed amps, So I don't see why the Games would scale to the manga instead of the games.

The anime and manga have the same amps for the ssj forms and almost all of DB canon is canon to the game verse.

 

[koopa3144]

So i checked Bardock's profile, and from what i see, he thankfully doesnt resist Stat Reduction/Power Null (unless thats covered by Ki). If Garmadon has that, he should be fine?

Power Null is covered by his dark Ki resistance.

 

[Topaz404]

Power Null is covered by his dark Ki resistance.

alright so how is Bardock supposed to die then?

Well, i guess theres like soul stuff but dang

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

The anime and manga have the same amps for the ssj forms and almost all of DB canon is canon to the game verse.

No?

The anime Only has a times 2 multi for speed, per transformation?
While here is the manga multi.

See the difference?

 

[koopa3144]

alright so how is Bardock supposed to die then?

Well, i guess theres like soul stuff but dang

Tbh all you really need is a way to get around his amps then you can just beat him up.

No?

The anime Only has a times 2 multi for speed, per transformation?
While here is the manga multi.

See the difference?

For the first blog, It's stated in the blog the ssj multilpers also apply to speed and afaik the reason it only looks like a 2x amp is because their downscaling from ssj god.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

SSJ is indeed a x50 multiplier in every continuity, it being that much of a powerup is sorta central to the whole 100% Frieza thing.

 

[YmTheSuper]

Garmadon starts either by throwing existence erasure blasts or by using spinjitzu (which itself has existence erasure since elemental powers are infused with spinjitzu)

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Can't Garmadon TK Badrock and kill him?