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If this is Silver haired Tomoe, Aladdin gets assaulted by passives.

This is a stomp.

He even loses to base tomoe. As he arguably couldn't handle her fear aura and beyond that she just PIRs him and it's GG. To further add onto that, she might actually start the battle with access to most of Aladdin's abilities; as Tomoe just by looking at you can read your memories across your entire life and be aware of things that even you yourself forgot, then manipulate reality to recreate your abilities. Things she can't recreate is just a matter of insane Magic power (Like Makoto), Physiology (Like Mio), Or divine gifts (Like Alte)
so... Nuff said.
 
If this is Silver haired Tomoe, Aladdin gets assaulted by passives.

This is a stomp.

He even loses to base tomoe. As he arguably couldn't handle her fear aura and beyond that she just PIRs him and it's GG. To further add onto that, she might actually start the battle with access to most of Aladdin's abilities; as Tomoe just by looking at you can read your memories across your entire life and be aware of things that even you yourself forgot, then manipulate reality to recreate your abilities. Things she can't recreate is just a matter of insane Magic power (Like Makoto), Physiology (Like Mio), Or divine gifts (Like Alte)
so... Nuff said.
None of her passives has the range to even affect Aladdin. Aladdin borg is also passive and he resists most of her passives without even needing the borg.

Tomoe wouldn't be able to read Aladdin's mind due to borg, he resists mind manipulation on like a 6D level, and Tomoe wouldn't be able to copy Aladdins magi magic since it requires billions upon billion information of the rukh for Aladdin to even use it, not to mention that he needed to use the wisdom of Solomon which is higher D

Aladdin resists most of her haxs via borg or regular resistance, she also has terrible range on her profile.
 
None of her passives has the range to even affect Aladdin. Aladdin borg is also passive and he resists most of her passives without even needing the borg.
No, he doesn't resist her passives (She negs magic resistances, as everyone in the verse has resistance to magic via having magic power, and his resistance doesn't cover fear, death, petrification, curses, stat reduction, or paralysis), and her passives stretch out for at least several kilometers (All of her powers do tbh, range is just something I kinda forgot to mention when updating her profile, dozens of meters is literally her at the very beginning of the novel; and to prove this, I urge you to glance at Root's profile, who has the same passives as her but is rated as having dozens of kilometers, cause they stretched over and beyond an entire capital city. She also affected an entire mountain with her reality warping making it so nobody could die.)
Tomoe wouldn't be able to read Aladdin's mind due to borg, he resists mind manipulation on like a 6D level, and Tomoe wouldn't be able to copy Aladdins magi magic
since it requires billions upon billion information of the rukh for Aladdin to even use it, not to mention that he needed to use the wisdom of Solomon which is higher D
Memory reading is explicitly not mind manipulation, not on versus battles and not in the verse. Makoto (The MC) resists having his mind manipulated but that does nothing as far as stopping her memory reading. Her memory reading also comes from her mist manipulation which isn't really magic. As Mist gates and mist in general was stated to be something other than magic (Like a superpower) in the beginning of the novel. Her recreating stuff is magic though.

Reading and manipulation are two different things, which is why resistance to MM doesn't mean you have resistance to telepathy and vice-versa. Heck, whether or not Mind Manipulation resistance would give you resistance to memory manipulation is something that's still often debated iirc.

As far as "it requires billions upon billion information of the rukh for Aladdin to even use it" I'm not sure what this means, as to why it would be difficult for her to copy Aladdin. I don't know a lot about Magi.
Aladdin resists most of her haxs via borg or regular resistance, she also has terrible range on her profile.
Already addressed. If you want to say "You can only go by what's on her profile" then this match can't continue because that portion of her profile is flat out wrong, I just never noticed it.

Think about it; she has abilities on her profile which do things like control the laws of physics of an alternate world (At least comparable to earth), can take out an entire army with one ability, people with the same passives as her have dozens of kilometers range with it, and she is stronger than people who can leave country sized craters with one attack.
Why would she only have dozens of meters range?
 
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Range has never really come up in a fight with her so I just never noticed how short her range rating was on her profile. At least everyone else seems to have the proper range listed.
 
Actually Aladdin resistance mind manip, overcame potent fear and empath, manip, he also resist having his memories read his borg is resistant to magic negation/power null and what that other guy was trying to say is his memories are tied to his conceptual existence so she’d need to be able to read that in order to copy his hax, there’s also the fact that every magi In magi resist magic but eos Aladdin low diffs them all except peak Solomon.
 
Actually Aladdin resistance mind manip, overcame potent fear and empath, manip, he also resist having his memories read his borg is resistant to magic negation/power null and what that other guy was trying to say is his memories are tied to his conceptual existence so she’d need to be able to read that in order to copy his hax, there’s also the fact that every magi In magi resist magic but eos Aladdin low diffs them all except peak Solomon.
1) I want to see scans or evidence of this memory reading stuff you're talking about, because there's nothing like that on his profile. Manipulation and reading is not the same thing, so no that doesn't work as evidence. Plus that's technically via magic resistance and her memory reading isn't magic.

2) Also, as I said, almost everyone in TGM has magic resistances (Including Mind, Empath, Pnull, and fear stuff) as well and Tomoe is a top tier in the verse whose magic works on everyone who isn't a God tier or have OP resistance or negation shields/skills. So whatever resistance he has, besides tier 2 or higher resistances, are pretty useless unless we're talking about several layers and a large scale.

Also, I don't see any mentions of concepts on his profile.

Only thing you mentioned potent was death manip, depending on what and how that works it could be a gg for Aladdin
What about petrification, curses, stat reduction, or paralysis?

Even discounting all of this, he has absolutely no answer to PIR.

  • Pure Illusion Reality: Tomoe combines reality and illusions, allowing her to turn things that are real into illusions. She's even completely turned her opponent and their attacks/weapons into illusions, making them cease to exist within reality. Soon after, the opponent also ceases to exist as an illusion, because of Pure Illusion Reality's effect which makes the illusions disappear into nothing.
^Which is subjective reality which turns the opponent into an illusion.
Or, if she's feeling less confident, she can BFR to Asora and have Aladdin get jumped by Asora natives. Including a 300/500-man army of 6-Bs. That's for a future CRT though.
 
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