Toby vs Chel Again!

[Buttersamuri]

This thread died a while back and became necro. So I remade.

Toby vs Chel cause they are both building levels and. I want toby fights

Speed is equal

They start in each other's range

Who wins this and why?

Chelshia:

Tobuscus:

Inconclusive/Draw:

 

[Jackythejack]

There are so many better options for Toby, mainly ones he doesn't just hax to oblivion-

 

[Buttersamuri]

Most of his "haxs" are just attack's.

 

[Jackythejack]

I mean you know still hax.

And she doesn't really have a way past that low-mid or resurrection or any of...*that*

 

[Buttersamuri]

Wait. I have to update something. I noticed he still has youtube haxs on there. A few shouldn't be used as Toby likely is a different Toby. Or maybe, not entirely certain. But they are skeptical with youtube, and this is using the hand held game

 

[Buttersamuri]

I mean you know still hax.

And she doesn't really have a way past that low-mid or resurrection or any of...*that*

Resurrection ain't applicable

Low Mid is with his potion.

 

[Jackythejack]

And type 5?

 

[Buttersamuri]

Not entirely in character to use. All we know is that the boss threatened to stab it inside of Toby so he can't die, and throw him into the sun and see how long it took for him to get across. And Toby gets it from him at the end of the game and kills him. Using some non applicable immortality negation. We don't know if he would resort to it.

Also entirely in doable with knocking him out if it so apply and is in character. his high regen only applies with potions to accelerate his healing. But his normal healing healed a good chunk of his shoulder being beaten off

 

[Jackythejack]

I'll be perfectly honest it still seems like a bit of a stomp to me considering the mind hax Toby uses, his type two and easily applicable type 3, and other things such as homing attacks and such. Even if his hax are attacks, they're still hax and Chelshia is fairly haxless. So I don't see how she can really take this even once given Toby's arsenal of abilities

 

[Buttersamuri]

I mean she does get to start in range. He would more open with his tablet attacks. They aren't haxs really, controlling an element or utilizing it as a weapon is less a hax, more just an ability. The only Haxs he really has is his potion to heal himself. Things like Time Travel, Resurrection, and Probability manipulation aren't combat applicable. So he isn't really hacky. He just has a lot more versatility

 

[Jackythejack]

Okay so what's not combat applicable and what is.

Is the mind hax in-character. How long does it take for him to use the tablet.

Wasn't his regen feat of getting his shoulder bitten off only in that Dead Island animation?

 

[Buttersamuri]

Resurrection, Time Travel, and Probability Manipulation are definitely not. Toby just used his machine to go back in time. Probability manipulation helps gets money. And resurrection was off screen and takes too long

Umm. Sort of. Not an opener for sure. He uses it on Gabuscus quite a bit to his own accord. But it's not what he tends to resort. By swiping it a certain way. So fairly quickly, but nothing thought based.

I believe so yes.

 

[Jackythejack]

So we can't use that feat because it's from the YouTube yeah? The Regenerationn thing?

 

[Buttersamuri]

I'm not sure now tbh. I mean, Toby has made reference to earlier episode in later points, and it clearly seems to be the same Toby in the zombie game. Nothing at all changes about him, and his wizard animations are on YouTube as well. The only reason he also gets these powers is cause it's from another wizard, so it's not like it's weird to his earlier plots. And it's intro is the exact same as his earlier animations. Tobuscus Adventures. So actually it seems like that's ok to use now that I think on that more. There's no real reason it shouldn't other than "YouTube profiles" which this doesn't Violate their rules on YouTube profiles.

 

[Jackythejack]

...I'm confused what does he have now.

Also should regenerating a shoulder not just be high-low?

 

[Buttersamuri]

Ok. I'll simple it up. Since the Toby previous adventures are fit under the same franchise. His page is what he has.

Resurrection, Time Travel, and Probability Manipulation are not usable

I don't think healing a chunk of his shoulder accounts for Low Mid.

High-Low = The ability to regenerate severed fingers, toes, or ears, minor organ damage, and even potentially reattach lost limbs.

Low-Mid = The ability to regenerate lost limbs, and even from severe organ damage or destruction, including traditionally fatal wounds and disembowelment or horizontal bisection.

I don't see a Toby healing a part of his shoulder as bad or completely organ destruction. Nothing fatal is there. And the most fatal thing is bleeding out. Which healing before you bleed out just says it works faster, not that it's more potent. So I think a Higher version of Low High is safest. It isn't quite Low-Mid

 

[Jackythejack]

And anything stop Chelshia from rushing in and ripping the tablet from his hands considering she should have superior lifting strength

 

[Buttersamuri]

The knowledge that it does that from the start. But once she figured out, as most people can put 2 and 2 together after seeing him do it a few times, just has to work pasts abilities.

Flight, stat reduction, tele, Ect.

 

[Jackythejack]

I mean Toby is kind of an idiot I dunno if he could make the most of those abilities.

 

[Buttersamuri]

He can. That's the entire point of the game. Would be kinda dumb if Toby couldn't make the very abilities he has to fight with. Dumb even by tobys Standards. He clearly can fight. Especially with who he has beaten.

 

[Jackythejack]

How likely is he to fly and how high up can he do so? Because that seems to be one of the only things that could throw the girl off at this point.

 

[Buttersamuri]

He tends to fly while doing spells from his castle. So not entirely unlikely. And has she dealt with being teleported herself?

 

[Jackythejack]

Oh is that what he does?

How the heck does that work

 

[Buttersamuri]

he can both teleport himself and others as an offense or defense. But he teleports then a distance away using the tablet.

 

[Jackythejack]

And the chances of him shutting down Chelshia range wise are...?

Because this just made a new big problem

 

[Buttersamuri]

He wouldn't teleport her kilometers away if that's what you mean, no. That's only something he would use to teleport himself away, but he more likely would teleport her a bit away. And start using element or stat reduction attacks

 

[Jackythejack]

And that's what I was worried about...

How likely is he to open up with that.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Depending on how she opens with. I'd she starts with range, he p Likely will be playing range too. Typical magic missiles, fire spells, wind spells, Ect. If she starts to charge him, then he is likely to teleport her away and then go for a slow and weaken spell. Then try and take her down from there. Not all the time, he may open with a slow down spell as well if she starts charging him and try and overwhelm her that way too.

 

[Jackythejack]

So basically he opens with it no matter what

 

[Buttersamuri]

No? If she started with her range stuff, he would start to play range. If she charges him though. That's gonna alarm either his slow down spell to slow her movements, and or teleport her away.

 

[Jackythejack]

I don't think slowing her movemenrs will do much given her speed boosts, but honestly range is what she's likely to start with considering that's a pretty solid opener for any boss figjt

 

[Buttersamuri]

So both would resort to range from the start then. As Toby may not the smartest but his magic definitely looks threatening.

 

[Jackythejack]

Well she's dealt with some experienced magic users before so I don't think she'd feel too threatened or intimidated.

Does Toby have an exact AP value

 

[Buttersamuri]

I meant he looks threatened in the sense of know to take it far more serious then she would if he was just his normal self. (A total idiot who seems like a slap would knock his lights ohtH

Umm. The exact value I don't have. He gets it from vaporizing a large group of bodies. Though that's very easily counted. I can do that real quick

 

[Buttersamuri]

So. Looks like there can be 19-23 zombies they get capped. Rounding even. We can say

1.434034 tons of TNT. (That's way higher than I originally anticipated). Somewhere in that area.

 

[Jackythejack]

Uuuuuh *****

I feel like he should fight Homer instead-

 

[Buttersamuri]

Homer was planned. But I'm doing them one by one now since multiple tend to lose people's interest and hard to keep track

 

[Buttersamuri]

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