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Timeless Voids Standards Issues (Staff only)
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Oh yes, her too. I can message her.
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If this doesn't go anywhere we can make a poll (staff only) on who agrees with removing infinite speed due to timeless void and who opposes it's removal
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Can I get a summary on what the conclusions are?
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If I remember correctly, we agreed that timeless voids are an unreliable way to measure speed, and Sera was going to rewrite our Timeless Voids Standards page to explain why.
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very well then
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I asked Aeyu, and she mostly just game me simplified explanations based on what she, Sera, and Pritti have said. Both of whom are currently dealing with the Corona Virus panic.
Basically, A void existing outside of time, or possessing an absence of time is considered an Unknow feat. Infinite speed is for Voids that that are "Beyond the flow of time;" there has to be time but the time within it is completely frozen for it to truly qualify as Infinite. And Immeasurable is for voids that are stated to be above and beyond time. The statements have to be either very specific or very elaborate.
I'm not sure if that explanation is big enough, but I'm busy ATM and basically the best collected information at the moment.
Basically, A void existing outside of time, or possessing an absence of time is considered an Unknow feat. Infinite speed is for Voids that that are "Beyond the flow of time;" there has to be time but the time within it is completely frozen for it to truly qualify as Infinite. And Immeasurable is for voids that are stated to be above and beyond time. The statements have to be either very specific or very elaborate.
I'm not sure if that explanation is big enough, but I'm busy ATM and basically the best collected information at the moment.
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What about voids that existed before the concept of time did ?
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I know Sera brought that up, and I know plenty of characters are Infinite based on that statement of predating time. But I don't quite remember what her answer was; Kepekley basically said no to that though.
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I would say that is more akin to Immeasurable than Infinite, but once again, simply entering in a place like that do not grant any ability unless is a requeriment.
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There are plenty of characters who predate time, but could not foresee their own actions nor go back in time to undo it. So Immeasurable for applying time predates seems arbitrary and Infinite sounds best case for those characters.
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Not talking about characters but about places, but is only Immeasurable in contrast (that means that from the point of view of someone of the material world, the character have Immeasurable, but the character itself is not).
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Yeah, that is the general conclusion here, "speed in contrast" is not really a rating, it was only a clarification of mine.
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Do you remember and understand the arguments in this thread well enough to rewrite the Timeless Voids Standards page accordingly Antoniofer?
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Unfortunately I'm not well versed in what exactly is going to be added/removed and where (although I get the tl;dr conclusion), my suggestion was a little more radical.
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I doubt Sera will be available any time soon; Corona virus has been hitting her country pretty hard given how close she is to China. However, Aeyu said she might be able to elaborate more later.
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Indeed, now is a matter of anyone like Aeyu or anyone else being able to make proposals - unless there's anything they would wanna add.
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Anyway, is somebody in the staff willing to read through the above discussion and edit the Timeless Voids Standards and Speed pages accordingly? I would appreciate the help.
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That arguably includes 428 to 432.Antvasima said:
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Not necessarily all of the discussion, mainly the beats near the end as those tackle the potential standards for voids a bit more.Antvasima said:
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Should we make a list of verses or characters that get their speed from void characteristics, that way it will be easier for the change to be implemented?
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It wouldn't hurt, as long as the thread is backed up to the Wayback Machine Internet Archive, but the main issue is to update our standards in the first place, and I need help from the staff with that.
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