Tier by size?

[Rodri_"Dante"]

So, I have seen that some profiles use size to justify it's Tier (Green Drago is the only example I can think about right now).

Do we have a chart to know which tier should a character have based on their size? Or is somenthing like "this character is as big as a room, so it should be at least Small Building level"?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

We have charts for determining tiers based on the distance explosions need to cover, but nothing dealing with the size of characters as far as i am aware.

 

[DontTalkDT]

I mean a 100 meter helium balloon monster ain't gonna destroy buildings by its size, so just a size to AP table can not really work.

Usually characters ranked by sheer size are very self-evident, though.


The last time I actually had a sheer size character where I didn't know what I should place it at, what it did was to measure its volume and guess its density and then basically calculated the KE of the impact if it quite simply fell over. (worked suprisingly well <.<)

 

[Endless_Astrograph_Sorcerer]

Super Shenron used to be rated At least 3-B with the justification being size alone. Obv thats since changed a couple times, first Low 2-C by scaling to a statement and then obv 2-C from the feat recreating the universes

EDIT: Just checked the page, the 3-B stuff is still there just alongside the 2-C

 

[Almighty_cat_of_doom]

I think it depends from case to case, but most often(like with Hellstar Remina) I think it is valid. But that might just be because of their feats.

Have there been any case where a big sized being has been on a lesser tier than their size would give them?

 

[Ugarik]

For a humanoid with proportional strength and speed as an average human

9-B - 5 meters tall

9-A - 21 meters tall

8-C - 46 meters tall

High 8-C - 70 meters tall

8-B - 98 meters tall

8-A - 152 meters tall

Low 7-C - 240 meters tall

7-C - 372 meters tall

High 7-C - 605 meters tall

Low 7-B - 960 meters tall

7-B - 1.385 meters tall

7-A - 2.400 meters tall

High 7-A - 3.800 meters tall

6-C - 5.100 meters tall

High 6-C - 9.600 meters tall

Low 6-B - 15.000 meters tall

6-B - 22.500 meters tall

High 6-B - 38.000 meters tall

6-A - 57.000 meters tall

High 6-A - 81.500 meters tall

5-C - 475.000 meters tall

Low 5-B - 810.000 meters tall

5-ðÆ - 2.200.000 meters tall

5-A - 4.660.000 meters tall


Larger characters will reach relativistic speed so I can't use this formula anymore

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

I'd like to know where or how you got this information from, Ugarik. I can't see a ten mile tall human being Small Country Level when there are several cities many times larger.

 

[Ugarik]

I'd like to know where or how you got this information from, Ugarik.
I can't see a ten mile tall human being Small Country Level when there are several cities many times larger.

Because if a character becomes 2 times larger they become twice as fast and 8 times as heavy (via cube-square law).

Kinetic energy formula is E=(m*V^2)/2.

Cube-square law is m2=m1*(L2/L1)^3 (m1 is original mass, m2 is new mass, L1 and L2 are original and new length respectively)

If we combine these two formulae we will get E2=E1*(L2/L1)^5. Since avg human is 1.73 m tall and their AP is 70 jouls we can replace L1 and E1 by these values so E=70*(L/1.73)^5 (where L is character's height)

Now if we extract L from this formula we"ll get L=((E/70)^(1/5))*1.73


And now just replace E with baseline of each tier

 

[Ugarik]

Ten mile tall human would weight about 52 billions of tons and move at high hypersonic speed just so you know

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

It's a bit confusing but it's something I could understand if I reread it over again, thanks.

I'm assuming '2 times faster' comes from increasing one's reaction speeds to fit their size?

And last question:

Because if a character becomes 2 times larger they become twice as fast and 8 times as heavy (via cube-square law).

I'm assuming there's a small and simple formula for this as well?

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

bump

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

...why are you bumping this?

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

Occasionally I accidentally click Mark as Read, and I don't get the notifications for some threads. I was just doing it in case the same thing happened to Ugarik, seeing as it had been well over 24 hours.

 

[Ugarik]

I'm assuming there's a small and simple formula for this as well?

Yes, it's called cube-square law. Its formula is m2=m1×(L2/L1)^3. It may look confusing but it's really simple. You just need to figure out how many times a character became larger, them multiply this number by itself 3 times and after that multibly it by their original mass.

For example a character weights 80 kg but when he became 2 times taller but remained the same shape. So 2×2×2=8. 8×80=640 kg. If they became 5 times larger - 5×5×5=125 25*80=10,000 kg. I hope you understood

 

[Ugarik]

Here's the picture if you don't understad how it works The cube first became 2 times taller (but remained cube shaped) then 6 times taller

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

I see. Thank you for your time.

 

[Nyukira]

So, I have seen that some profiles use size to justify it's Tier (Green Drago is the only example I can think about right now).

Actually, before he was upgraded to Island Level, he was deemed as 8-C due to a KE calculation made by Kepekley.