Tier 10 level names

[DontTalkDT]

In regards to the tier 10-B tier, the Tiering System calls it Average level, while the Attack Potency page seems to suggest Human level

Which is correct? Should this be made the same?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Human level is the best imo, like it's better generalization that putting "average" on it.

 

[Antoniofer]

Average human is more accurate imo, I mean, one can be athletic or even peak human and still being human level, but definitively not average level.

 

[DontTalkDT]

bump

 

[Gemmysaur]

I would rather it be Average, if to be clear on what it means. Because technically speaking, John Cena is normal human despite being able to bench press some 2-3x more than an average joe who never gym'd in his life, who is also a normal human.

 

[Skalt711]

I'm suggesting the next names:

10-C: Below Average level

10-B: Average level

10-A: Athlete level

It is a pain to standardize all the 10-B profiles to this name because there exist at least 3 variations of the 10-B name that appear across the wiki.

 

[AKM sama]

Average human is more accurate imo, I mean, one can be athletic or even peak human and still being human level, but definitively not average level.

I agree with this.

 

[Promestein]

Human level is far more widespread and is what is more commonly used.

 

[KLOL506]

Promestein seems to make sense.

 

[Hellbeast1]

I'd just say average human

 

[DontTalkDT]

I guess this should just go on the list of revision projects we eventually have to do.

 

[AKM sama]

I guess this should just go on the list of revision projects we eventually have to do.

Given the lack of staff participation here and seeing how this will affect many profiles, should I highlight this?

 

[DontTalkDT]

I guess so.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Most profiles uses Human level. So it should be it.

 

[AKM sama]

I've done so.

 

[Blahblah9755]

It should be "Average Human Level".

"Human Level" sounds too vague because it could seemingly include peak and athletic humans, while "Average Level" sounds too vague because it's non-specific as to what average it's talking about.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I think 10-B should be Average Human level. Average level doesn't really make a lot of sense and sounds like it could be Average fictional character. Plus most Average humans are of course very weak for fictional character standards. And Human level isn't specific enough either since Humans can range from 10-C to 9-C. Not to mention fictional humans can obviously reach far above that.

So it should be Average Human level.

 

[The_Foolish_Omniscient_Guy]

How about that for Tier 10:

10-C: Below Human level

10-B: Average Human level

10-A: Athletic Human level

 

[Andytrenom]

I think it should be human level as well. We don't call 5-B "Earth level" to specify what kind of planet we're referring to and it doesn't create confusion, why would this? I don't think "Human level" not automatically clarifying we are talking about average humans is a real concern

 

[VileShadows]

Here's how I see it

Human level: Looks and sounds the best, but as Antoniofer pointed out, the name would imply that every human (peak and under) would fall here.

Average level: Don't really like this one. Most fictional characters are indeed 10-B, but this name would imply that if you averaged every fictional character, this is what you'd get. Such a thing isn't even mathematically possible with tier 2 (and up) characters, and High 3-A characters would just make the average High 3-A, so to do this you'd have to average every character that is 3-A and under. Not only will this never happen, but the result would likely be far above 10-B.

Average Human level: Doesn't roll off the tongue as easily as the other two but it makes the most sense logically. If we're going to go with any of these three, this is my pick.

 

[Ryukama]

I agree with Human level.

 

[Crabwhale]

Average Human level seems the most acceptable to me, the other two just sound awkward, especially when you put it next to Athletic Human and Peak Human.

 

[Wokistan]

Average human seems fine

 

[Ryukama]

I'm good with Average Human too. I just don't like "Average Level"

 

[Antvasima]

Human level seems most convenient, given that this is our current official name, and the most widespread used alternative.

It also sounds better than the other alternatives.

In any case, here are all the pages that some members would have to check through and correct if we are going to make a revision of this:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Tier_10

 

[Antvasima]

The Lifting Strength and Speed levels corresponding to tier 10 do not quite sychronise into a coherent pattern though.

 

[Overlord775]

Avarage Human level is the best option IMO since it best describes the tier

 

[Antvasima]

It sounds a bit awkward though, and would lead to revising several hundred pages.

 

[Overlord775]

do we seriusly even have hundreds of 10-B pages ?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we have hundreds of tier 10 pages at least, but I suppose that you have a point.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

9-C is confusing though, does it really mean that a person is capable of destroying streets or is it able to go through street fights? It should be more specific

 

[Wokistan]

The latter. I got confused by it at first too since I've broken walls but can't crack asphalt, but this isn't the place for that. This is for 10-B.

 

[Antvasima]

It refers to regular streetfighting characters in action movies and the like.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Average Human level is better imo

 

[Andytrenom]

I still have the same problem with rejecting Human level because it can refer to athletes or peak humans and that's cause you can make the same argument for Planet level or Star level or Galaxy level or City level, or Town level or Country level or anything that varies in size, shape or any parameter

What makes Human level alone so confusing when almost the entire remaining tiering system has sub tiers whose names don't explicity state what instance of the object it corresponds to is being used for a baseline?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I suppose that we could change the 10-B AP/Durability rating to "Average Human level", and the Striking Strength to "Average Human Class", but then some of you would have to go through all of the almost 500 categorised tier 10 pages, and correctly update all of them when necessary.

 

[Skalt711]

I can take this workload. I have a lot of free time nowadays. 500 pages don't seem like a scary number.

 

[Overlord775]

@Andy

Except we do that for other tiers, just look at things like small planet level or large planet level

 

[Antvasima]

@Skalt711

Okay. Thank you for the help. I would appreciate if some other Administrators and Content Moderators would be willing to help you out though.

 

[Skalt711]

Okay. I'll ask for the help whenever it'll be needed.