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Tier 1 & 0 Review Thread

So, are any characters Low 1-C, or is it just the cosmology?
 
All added things that are currently 2-A would be Low 1-C

Any character with power derived from Zisnerve, or Payeh would have Low 1-C hax
 
ExSENNA said:
All added things that are currently 2-A would be Low 1-C

Any character with power derived from Zisnerve, or Payeh would have Low 1-C hax
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That would mean that you have been intentionally bypassing the rules with multiple different pages. We have been vehemently against purge-evading since the beginning.

It has now ended, but the consequence for those who have ignored this wiki policy will not change.

For this reason, we will have to deny Storiverse. All of your 2-A pages will also be deleted.

I shall note that due to this being a relatively minor change (2-A to Low 1-C), alongside the quality of your explanation and character pages being up to standard, you will be still able to appeal this verdict in two weeks time.
 
Phoenks said:
That would mean that you have been intentionally bypassing the rules with multiple different pages. We have been vehemently against purge-evading since the beginning.

It has now ended, but the consequence for those who have ignored this wiki policy will not change.

For this reason, we will have to deny Storiverse. All of your 2-A pages will also be deleted.

I shall note that due to this being a relatively minor change (2-A to Low 1-C), alongside the quality of your explanation and character pages being up to standard, you will be still able to appeal this verdict in two weeks time.
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The pages were not Low 1-C before but only 2-A. The reasoning for 2-A Tiering was different. I did not add the cosmological change for Low 1-C until end of the purge. I believe I was not bypassing any rules because no profile before this cosmology blog and additions were ever Low 1-C but only 2-A. The explanations for Tierings were changed. I was not able to upgrade the cosmology due to Purge, but now I could so I did alongside the Blog.


So in short I believe there was a misunderstanding. The reasoning for 2-A and Low 1-C are different and Low 1-C Tiering was only added now with the cosmology blog.
 
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That's just disguising Low 1-C pages as 2-A with extra steps.

It's only Low 1-C, so as said, we'd be willing to hear you out and give it a second chance. This thing aside, things look alright enough. However, we have a no-tolerance policy against this exact behavior for exactly the reasons you would imagine.

Edit: That being said, I'll discuss things with the staff team to see if we can let this pass.
 
Moritzva said:
That's just disguising Low 1-C pages as 2-A with extra steps.

It's only Low 1-C, so as said, we'd be willing to hear you out and give it a second chance. This thing aside, things look alright enough. However, we have a no-tolerance policy against this exact behavior for exactly the reasons you would imagine.

Edit: That being said, I'll discuss things with the staff team to see if we can let this pass.
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No it is not. Listen, before end of the Purge, all pages were at most 2-A in cosmology. You can even check the history of the pages, I only updated them and cosmology after end of the Purge. None of them were Low 1-C, the 2-A rating was from a different thing, and Low 1-C implication was not written anywhere at all.

No page or character was ever Low 1-C before, not in backstories or anywhere else. They only became Low 1-C after update of multiple pages and addition of cosmology blog. The things that would bring them to Low 1-C were not written in any page at all.
 
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Going back to fact-check what you said, you're definitely telling the truth and we made a judgement too hastily. It is true that we have a no-tolerance policy on this sort of thing, and in most scenarios, we wouldn't allow this sort of thing, as it is extremely suspicious. However, you have made a fair argument that these characters have existed before the purge and were not tier 1 before the purge. Furthermore, the leap is not that considerable, and I do like what you have written overall and I think it is of rather high quality.

With that in mind, I'd like to give a formal apology. We were not aware of this previous history, and now that we are, the team has agreed that your pages are definitely of high enough quality. All I'd ask is that, in the future, you directly link the characters being upgraded, as we probably would've noticed earlier that they were created before had you linked them to us, rather than simply telling us that all your 2-As were now Low 1-C.

This goes for everyone, naturally.
 
Moritzva said:
Going back to fact-check what you said, you're definitely telling the truth and we made a judgement too hastily. It is true that we have a no-tolerance policy on this sort of thing, and in most scenarios, we wouldn't allow this sort of thing, as it is extremely suspicious. However, you have made a fair argument that these characters have existed before the purge and were not tier 1 before the purge. Furthermore, the leap is not that considerable, and I do like what you have written overall and I think it is of rather high quality.

With that in mind, I'd like to give a formal apology. We were not aware of this previous history, and now that we are, the team has agreed that your pages are definitely of high enough quality. All I'd ask is that, in the future, you directly link the characters being upgraded, as we probably would've noticed earlier that they were created before had you linked them to us, rather than simply telling us that all your 2-As were now Low 1-C.

This goes for everyone, naturally.
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Thank you, apology accepted, and my apologizes for not clarifying it properly.

In short, the cosmology capped at 2-A and any information that could ever warrant Low 1-C was not part of anywhere in any page prior to end of the Purge.

Does this verse pass now?

Edit: I also greatly appreciate you for finding the pages of mine to be of high quality.
 
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OP updated
 
I would like to get back my Pokémon Glitches profiles. Namely, PkMnaPkMnゥ ♂ fPkMnk and ♀ .

I don't have the text anymore unfortunately but I think mods can check the deletion history for the original profiles? Pretty please?

They're just Low 1-C with like, one move. So hopefully they should be fine.
 
SkyStalynTeta said:
Hello. I send you my sandbox. Check, please. If something is wrong, give hints for correction or any advice. I hope I did everything right. I have spent many hours writing hard evidence to substantiate. https://fcoc-vs-battles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Sky_Stalyn_Teta/sandbox
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Firstly you need a cosmology blog. Secondly, I don't see much story in this sandbox. They seem to be a vague supreme entity without anything else. I feel we'd need more characters with backstories and more depth to justify its existence.
 
JOHNTHON111 said:
Hello there, can you review my character sandbox right here Locus Deus and his Cosmology
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I'm afraid I have to deny this.

There doesn't seem to be much story or character present, and even that which is there is very much connected to the tiers and cosmology size.

The emphasis on the cosmology and tiering generally is too large.

This also seems to be extremely derivative of I/O to an unacceptable degree.
 
Phoenks said:
For additional clarity on your verse, what is the purpose in the involvement of string theory and the infinite realities, in regards to the story?

Also, is this cosmology intended to be 5-D or 6-D at its peak?
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In regards to the cosmology’s peak, it’s 5-D. The extra-dimensional space is supposed to represent the fourth dimension that the three dimensional universes are embedded upon, which is then embedded onto Yggdrasil.

As for String Theory and infinite realities, while I was going to include an entire section dedicated to it, it deals with the idea of an unknowable future, and a little bit of predestination. As each universe vibrates at the same frequency, there is this constant cycle that repeats. As such, it becomes this constant cycle of pain and suffering. All of this is done because of Yggdrasil, which was created by a higher power paranoid of the idea of an infinite variation of vibrating frequencies, thus, infinite possibilities.
 
Batman (Prep abilities are Low 1-C/1-C scaling to canon stuff)

Mobius Chair is Low 1-C (6-D) scaling to the Anti-Monitor and Doctor Manhattan

Spear of Destiny is 1-C (7-D) scaling to the Spectre
 
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Just need to ask you guys if this minecraft mods are qualified for Low 1-C.
Below are the rambling of scientist that you can gather before fighting against the final demon.
"Your quest is to destroy the pillars of creation with a Red Morningstar. This is what Greek Gods have built up over the millenia, and it really is the greatest goal of all. Up on the pantheon you can still see them stand. Its other ability and the way§r its capable of such destruction is to stop the suns rays during the day (called an \"enid\" in ancient Greece). You can have up to three of these at the same time (hence \"daylight\") or you can shoot an object and throw it towards the sun. The red sun rises from the earth when it comes across the Moon before it blows up into the stars (a sign of a great Sun), so to speak. If youre a scientist, its probably a no-brainer to use a red moon to see its effect immediately.
You can get some good information about this in a few different papers of mine. But what if all the red suns of creation are created from a yellow sky? Thats what I will talk about next, so lets get started first: A red moon creates a lot of energy, but most of it is simply light energy. For example, you will see the sun rise from the earth before it breaks up into stars to get our attention here. It seems to me that if you are in the early evening sun, that is what you will see. However, when it was just the usual nighttime sunrise, it would appear with only the red or white moon shining on it.
Now, all we have to do is to imagine everything is going to be bright no matter what we were doing. Lets see how simple it is. Lets create an object with 0 light-years and 0 red/white lights. Then, imagine we were doing something involving no material. At a certain point of time, that object will start spinning up and around. Since everything is done in a specific time frame, where is the source of energy in the object? The answer here will certainly come from a certain type of physical description of physics, but a \"physical description\" will make it easy to see. In general, the red sun and the blue moon are more active than the white moon and are closer to the sun. Both seem to be more active. Lets assume an object where some hot air and a cold atmosphere are present.
When you look for a planet in the region of Enceladus, you look for a body with a very small surface. If you find a small planet in orbit of the sun, this will cause your planet to orbit around the large surface so it will probably be a very big body with very hot, dense dust. However, if the planet lies in any lower mass than the surface, a faint reddish glow will appear.
This reddish glow is a reflection of the planet and an echo of the red sun. Notice that if you look at the surface of a red sun, it is really an echo of the red sun. You can find in Enceladus a body with a very small surface, and this planet will be as big and bright in the bright sunlight as it is in the red sun. Assuming this p§4l§ranet can be interpreted as the \"red moon\", we already have a hint on what it means to \"call for the help of the red moon\" to cause ultimate destruction. Secondly, lets focus on the exact execution of the destruction of the pillars of creation.
In his book, \"The Creation of Heaven\", Albert Einstein says that the entire earth appears to be a fire that burns slowly to death. However, his book explicitly shows that this fire is not, in fact, the \"burning of entire heavens\". Although the concept of fire has been proposed at least once before, the existence of the flame is the only explanation for the mysterious fire.
As Einstein says, the idea of having a flame burning on top of a pillar does not seem to apply to the entire world (just how close it should be to an actual burning pillar would be difficult to explain). After all, all the sun, moon, planets, and even sunspots in the solar system have their \"burning cores\" on either side of the pillars or the pillars are the only visible forms of the burning flame as they are just visible. While Einstein clearly acknowledges this, the explanation he gives is a complete lie. In fact, he says that light shines at an angle of one-half of a degree to one-to-two thirds of a degree, and that such light is simply an idea invented to justify the existence of the golden flames at the very top of the pillars.
The light of a single-colored flame could not have created the idea. And then Einstein began to say that the whole idea of the Great Fire Theory and the golden flame at the level of the pillars as an idea, no matter his technical difficulty, may well be an idea invented by two different philosophers, namely the German Schriller and von Humboldt. While all these ideas are merely speculation and conjecture, each of them is true in its own way. And what has come into those two ideas is simply their own reflections on one another. What these two ideas say about the structure of the universe gives more significance than any other possibility that may be explained in the next section. But what if there is more to be said? There is. For, the very first impression that you give to your child as an object of interest is that it is a \"great fire fire\", a great flame that has a very bright and strong flame, and \"not in a good way\".
The Essence of Breaking. We could have all discovered by accident, even as a little child, and thats exactly what Einstein did. Through sheer luck or knowledge, we may never know, but this is the way he managed to gather the energy required to destroy reality itself and break the pillars of creation.
\"But we still live in this reality, right?\", you may ask. Wrong! Einstein recreated this dimension by splitting and copying one thats only about 4-5 quadrillion strings, or approximately 10^-18 cm away in one of the unreachable directions of the four-spatial dimensional scope were living in. Turns out the pillars contained enough energy to create infinitely many realities, only one of which was necessary to hold up. This whole occurrence is described fully in the Book of Chaos, a not-so-well-received scientific paper about the truth of this world. Unfortunately scientists in our age are too preoccupied to see the real truth. But now you know too."
-Divine Journey 2 Chapter 29 "Tear down the pillar of creation" quest.-
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Atricos are on steroids when creating this lore...
Did anybody catch the meaning of all of this? It is enough for Low 1-C?
"The Book of Chaos is correct, but doesnt explain what happened in its entirety. The truth is, one book was lost during the transfer of realities. It is now dubbed The Ancient Book of Chaos, and it only lives in our memories. It contained information on how to rebuild our reality, or even... shape it in a way thats... advantageous for some.
It is interesting to observe the ways that the apparent real world, as it has been called over the zillenias gets in the way of what could be called a real world. The concept could be very simple. Its what happened in the past and what happened in the future: all that is left is a constant pressure and need for change.I believe these are now well known principles of reality to some extent. Now I may have missed some of the interesting details that you may have missed. For instance, while I believe that The Ancient Book of Chaos wasnt lost, and that it remains buried somewhere in Germany... Einstein wouldnt be called Einstein if he didnt think about the consequences of messing with the fabric of reality itself. He must have saved the real truth somewhere! I believe the reason the world has changed so drastically during and after Einsteins death is because of this reality reshaping. Einstein boosted the capabilities of our reality by at least 4200%, and made scientific and technological progress multiple factors faster.
Just look around! Dont you see how much the world has accelerated since? Its not hard to see. Though it could be explained by considering other factors, some truths and some assumptions of our reality. But the whole picture is much larger! What if these factors are the same? What if it is the same for all dimensions and time, and that dimension is Earth? It is very possible, and possible, that the physical dimension of our reality is different from that of Earth, and that Earth does not change to a greater or lesser degree.
Thats a point that every person agrees with. Earth does not change to an extent to a greater or lesser degree because it is an extremely small world! Just look how much space there is with Earth. We are so small we make other things tiny! Why, what happens if they are just smaller compared to Earth? Earth and Earth change simultaneously, and as their size increases, so does their size and its strength. That is, Earth is denser, thinner, and stronger with every passing day. Imagine a more stable Earth, and we could live very long, simply because the Earth has never changed in its size. But a less stable Earth, which is a smaller, weaker, and more brittle planet, would experience a smaller amount of change from its bigger size. As a result, we would become less stable, more dense, less strong, and with each passing day more unstable. A more stable Earth would therefore have a greater chance of changing because of more changes in density and strength, and less chance to be stable if we moved one inch or less from its smaller size. In other words, a more stable Earth would have a much bigger edge on its larger world than its larger as a whole, thus giving it an edge its very, very hard to break. To this end, a more stable Earth would also have greater latitude, more space, more energy, and much more surface area. A more stable (but smaller, more temperate) Earth, in which there could be a greater chance of life outside the Solar System than there is on Earth, would create more problems than its more stable Earth.
If we think about the effects of changing temperatures for the last 300 million years, how many of those that have existed on, say, Earth during that time were large landforms, whats the difference between 1.3 times the landmass that we have today instead of a few years later and 50 times the amount? §4I§rt depends upon whether theyre all large, even if you assume the rate is very similar.\" The scientists, with the support of the U.S. Geological Survey, also found that global temperatures during that time were \"significantly warmer\" than at any other time during the past 100 million years, including the past 60 years. \"The changes we saw in the past few thousand years are consistent with climate variability, if something comes up, a global warming of 100 degrees C or more is occurring,\" said study coauthor Stephen Knapton. \"Its not a coincidence, this is consistent with a number of other studies in other parts of the world that have found that climate change impacts are happening almost everywhere in North America.\"
This is just an example of not looking at the whole picture. If all scientists worked together, maybe theyd be able to figure it all out! But humanity still has a language barrier, a quarter of us still dont have sufficient food or drinking water, racial issues still stand, so we cant easily move forward. Im afraid I wont get to see the light of day before the true truth gets discovered... Im leaving this message here so you can share it with others. That is, if you trust me. I have provided a lot of evidence, and you can go out to Germany and hunt for The Ancient Book of Chaos yourself. I believe it should be hidden in north-western Ulm, but thats just a hunch, I have no evidence of that. Anyway, this metaphoxyl is making me dizzy, I think I need some sleep... I hope I have convinced you though. When has old Blitterscrow ever lied to you?! There is no way I could be wrong. There is no way. Im not wrong. I couldnt be wrong. I- I- ..."
-Divine Journey 2, Chapter 29, " Remade in our image" quest-
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What about this? Can this reach tier Low 1-C already? or just 2-A?
I swear Atricos is just rambling at this point...
"Used to \"reshape reality\" by remaking the pillars of creation in our image."
-Devil Advocate item description-
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Is this enough for subjective realities?
 
I am pretty sure this thread only applies to OCs made by the authors not to stuff like fanfics or mods made by other people.

Am I wrong or am I right?
 
Saikou_The_Lewd_King said:
I would like to get back my Pokémon Glitches profiles. Namely, PkMnaPkMnゥ ♂ fPkMnk and ♀ .

I don't have the text anymore unfortunately but I think mods can check the deletion history for the original profiles? Pretty please?

They're just Low 1-C with like, one move. So hopefully they should be fine.
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The pages are fine, but whether or not they qualify as Tier 1 is debatable and should be discussed in another thread.
 
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In regards to the cosmology’s peak, it’s 5-D. The extra-dimensional space is supposed to represent the fourth dimension that the three dimensional universes are embedded upon, which is then embedded onto Yggdrasil.

As for String Theory and infinite realities, while I was going to include an entire section dedicated to it, it deals with the idea of an unknowable future, and a little bit of predestination. As each universe vibrates at the same frequency, there is this constant cycle that repeats. As such, it becomes this constant cycle of pain and suffering. All of this is done because of Yggdrasil, which was created by a higher power paranoid of the idea of an infinite variation of vibrating frequencies, thus, infinite possibilities.
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So, uh, in regards to this, any word?
 
Can I make Taiga Snow's profile back?

Because she only used low 1-C power once and it literally killed her when she used it to permanently get rid of Yanald, meaning it can't be on her profile

It's like MCU Ironman having the infinity gauntlet on his profile (he doesn't)
 
Spinoirr said:
Can I make Taiga Snow's profile back?

Because she only used low 1-C power once and it literally killed her when she used it to permanently get rid of Yanald, meaning it can't be on her profile

It's like MCU Ironman having the infinity gauntlet on his profile (he doesn't)
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No. It would still need to get accepted here for you to add the page.
 
Phoenks said:
No. It would still need to get accepted here for you to add the page.
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What I mean is, removing the tier one stuff from her profile because it was used once and she died to it thus it can't be on her profile

She still used it in verse, but it can't be on her profile for the same reason Ironman doesn't have the infinity gauntlet
 
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So, uh, in regards to this, any word?
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Sorry for the wait.

I was a little confused on your response as I didn't have further context on how the universal vibrations causes an endless cycle of suffering, and why that fact in particular is a narrative device.

I was mostly asking as well to see how you incorporate the infinite possibilities into your setting.

Also, is Altaire the Azure Core itself or does she house it or something?
 
Phoenks said:
Sorry for the wait.

I was a little confused on your response as I didn't have further context on how the universal vibrations causes an endless cycle of suffering, and why that fact in particular is a narrative device.

I was mostly asking as well to see how you incorporate the infinite possibilities into your setting.

Also, is Altaire the Azure Core itself or does she house it or something?
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Altaire does indeed house the Azure Core within her, which is what helps in regards to her story and character. Since her using Overdrive means basically sacrificing portions of existence in order to power herself, helping her grow her character.

As for the vibrations and things like that, it mainly boils down to the idea of paranoia about the future and what it could drive someone to do.
 
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