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shouldn't he have multiple selves?hi. Pretty much everything is in the profile I think
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I think the evidence is rather strong and simple but we'll see.
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shouldn't he have multiple selves?hi. Pretty much everything is in the profile I think
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BestMGQScalerEver/Maleldil
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I think the evidence is rather strong and simple but we'll see.
No.shouldn't he have multiple selves?
Because its not multiple minds or souls inhabiting anything. They're distinct persons (not different selves) who possess a single essence/being in which even individually are wholely it.why?
Well, it is based on the christian trinity and that concept has God as 1 mind but 3 distinct consciousness/persons, that (excepting the name of the type) sounds pretty much like the type 1Because its not multiple minds or souls inhabiting anything. They're distinct persons (not different selves) who possess a single essence/being in which even individually are wholely it.
No. That is not how it works. Personhood isn't referring to being conscious (they're relational hypostases), there's only 1 intellect/consciousness in the trinity.God as 1 mind but 3 distinct consciousness/persons
With consciousness I mean self-awarenessNo. That is not how it works. Personhood isn't referring to being conscious, there's only 1 intellect/consciousness in the trinity.
I also asked Ultima about it off-site and that this type of stuff also wouldn't be multiple selves. He'll probably give his evaluation of the thread later I think.With consciousness I mean self-awareness
OhI also asked Ultima about it off-site and that this type of stuff also wouldn't be multiple selves. He'll probably give his evaluation of the thread later I think.
There’s one center of willing, but they could still be considered different selves since they’re not each other. Each person has distinct relational roles, and different underlying realities of their rational nature along with being different subjects.No. That is not how it works. Personhood isn't referring to being conscious (they're relational hypostases), there's only 1 intellect/consciousness in the trinity.
I can get that in a way they can be considered "selves" but not in a way that qualifies for the ability. Although I think there might be some issues or nitpicks with your description but it's not too important for the threadThere’s one center of willing, but they could still be considered different selves since they’re not each other. Each person has distinct relational roles, and different underlying realities of their rational nature along with being different subjects.
Yeah you’re right:I can get that in a way they can be considered "selves" but not in a way that qualifies for the ability. Although I think there might be some issues or nitpicks with your description but it's not too important for the thread
are you talking about the hypostases in the trinity or the multiple selves ability?The "selves" are different expressions the a wholly individual if i'm not wrong
The formerare you talking about the hypostases in the trinity or the multiple selves ability?
They’re real distinctions not just forms of expression.The former
I agree with MGQscalierever, God with multiple selves is a very deep question in religionI can get that in a way they can be considered "selves" but not in a way that qualifies for the ability. Although I think there might be some issues or nitpicks with your description but it's not too important for the thread
Amazing job
I think that we should wait for @Ultima_Reality before we close this thread for safety reasons.Ultima isn't gonna be coming to this thread it seems, he's been aware of the thread since 3rd of this month, and said he'd do it "tomorrow" like 2 days ago (it's been more than tomorrow), so I'll just make the profile since 2 admin 2 thread mod votes is enough.
Boundless (Maleldil transcends all things to the point that the hierarchical differences and distances between beings are completely relativized vis-a-vis him, with any given point in his "Great Dance" from dust grains and insects to universal truths and qualities, even in its inequality to all others, being equally at the center of the procession, "the end and final cause of all creation" for which all other things were made, due to Maleldil's undivided presence to all levels of the hierarchy, the whole of him being entirely contained in each thing, and all things in their complexity in turn being "eaten up" and "faded" into his "simplicity beyond comprehension." There is nothing like Maleldil among all his creations, and he shares "no shadow or similitude" with them, thus placing him beyond all things characterizing created natures, such as the fundamental duality of masculine and feminine, as well as the aforementioned universal truths, including even those of such things as morality ["right demands"], his light being that within which all such truths can be understood, but not itself able to be known through them ["but from them, you could know nothing of it]")
I have one prepared.Thank you very much for helping out.
Is somebody willing to modify this wiki page with Ultima's text and the associated scan links if I unlock the page for you?
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Maleldil
Maleldil is the Son of the Old One, the lord of all Eldila, and is the one true ruler of the universe, who has once incarnated on Earth. Maleldil barely makes any appearance himself within the novel, existing mostly as an unseen and indirect guide, but has revealed himself to Ransom in the form...vsbattles.fandom.com