Tier 0 Force

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

If you want to slap a tier on it, then it has to warrant being a character profile.

We don't use the standard character format for verse specific powers and abilities or explanation pages.

Location profiles can have a tier on them.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Well then I guess The Force can be a location profile.

 

[Firestorm808]

With how I formatted it, I feel it being a location makes the most sense. Pretty similar to The Warp from W40k.

Isn't the Warp a dedicated location compared to The Force which is, well, everything?

To my knowledge, the Warp wouldn't be an analogy for The Force.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Isn't the Warp a dedicated location compared to The Force which is, well, everything?

To my knowledge, the Warp wouldn't be an analogy for The Force.

The Warp's page also didn't get updated when our cosmology was revised to uh... not have Low 1-A anymore cause Ultima said so and everyone went along with it lol

 

[Keeweed]

I mean the force sounds equally much as a thing as many other tier 0s on this site. The elder scrolls one is pretty much a force of nature to rather than like an actual guy in the same way. We have supernova as a profile and meteor impacts to clarify as well. Just seems to be sticking really hard to rules that aren’t designed as being as hard cut as this.

 

[The_Impress]

Clearly we should delete the Elder Scrolls one, that's the based outcome

 

[Keeweed]

To be fair I really don’t think the elder scrolls one should even be tier 0 but that’s for another time.

 

[Re5yh]

Location profiles can have a tier on them.

thanks oblivion

 

[Grand_Astartes]

I suppose an example would be the Monad God of DC Comics with its aspects of The Source and The Overvoid.

This is probably exactly what I would say the Force is closest to being. By no means is it similar to the Warp in any way, which is explicity still referred to as "realm". The Force is something else entirely, and like you said, it has heavy implications of having a will several times, no matter how little "it" actually interferes.

I am still much more in support of it getting a character profile. It is not a power (similar to ki from Dragonball), energy field, a mere location, and a multitude of other things.

 

[Re5yh]

This is probably exactly what I would say the Force is closest to being. By no means is it similar to the Warp in any way, which is explicity still referred to as "realm". The Force is something else entirely, and like you said, it has heavy implications of having a will several times, no matter how little "it" actually interferes.

I am still much more in support of it getting a character profile. It is not a power (similar to ki from Dragonball), energy field, a mere location, and a multitude of other things.

This is simular to Mathiverse, bit we cant create the profile because Ultima stolen the page name for his blog.

 

[god_cat]

This is probably exactly what I would say the Force is closest to being. By no means is it similar to the Warp in any way, which is explicity still referred to as "realm". The Force is something else entirely, and like you said, it has heavy implications of having a will several times, no matter how little "it" actually interferes.

I am still much more in support of it getting a character profile. It is not a power (similar to ki from Dragonball), energy field, a mere location, and a multitude of other things.

agree on character categorization

 

[Xavis10]

Shouldn't it be a magic system?

Makes the most sense.

 

[Re5yh]

So, should we create the Force profile now?

 

[Xavis10]

This is probably exactly what I would say the Force is closest to being. By no means is it similar to the Warp in any way, which is explicity still referred to as "realm". The Force is something else entirely, and like you said, it has heavy implications of having a will several times, no matter how little "it" actually interferes.

I am still much more in support of it getting a character profile. It is not a power (similar to ki from Dragonball), energy field, a mere location, and a multitude of other things.

That "will" is exclusive to the Living Force, not the other aspects.

 

[Xavis10]

So, should we create the Force profile now?

It's already being worked on.

 

[god_cat]

Makes the most sense.

Is scaling available in such a case

 

[Xavis10]

Is scaling available in such a case

I don’t know, but would expect so, doesn’t make sense if not. Either ‘magic’ system or character profile should be fine really, the (Living) Force is a constant agent in the story, a profile should well be in order. If the Amaranth, the Essential Divinity and the White Light all have profiles, then so should the Force.

 

[StoneKillerz12]

At this point, I'd be most comfortable with The Force being a character profile. The Force has manifested into tangible, sentient entities in the past and is portrayed as well as directly shown as having a will and a consciousness. The Supreme Maker/Father of Lights is also pretty much The Force as well, and he is a character.

 

[OTG0001]

At this point, I'd be most comfortable with The Force being a character profile. The Force has manifested into tangible, sentient entities in the past and is portrayed as well as directly shown as having a will and a consciousness. The Supreme Maker/Father of Lights is also pretty much The Force as well, and he is a character.

Said will and consciousness is purely metaphorical and not a direct component of any higher iterations of the Force, it is also not significant outside a few mentions which don't elaborate on what it is or what it does.

Anyways, I agree on a character profile, it's hard to categorize it as a "magic system" purely or a location since it doesn't really fit the descriptors for both.

 

[god_cat]

Well, in that case, most people seem to agree that it should be a character.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

eh sure. Any more mods willing to take a look?

 

[Firestorm808]

What else is needed here?

 

[Re5yh]

What else is needed here?

everything is all needed for the force

 

[Xavis10]

What else is needed here?

Just staff approval really. The Force profile is still being worked on, but it's pertinent to ascertain what status should it have in the verse pages.

 

[god_cat]

Just staff approval really. The Force profile is still being worked on, but it's pertinent to ascertain what status should it have in the verse pages.

I actually think the profile I made is acceptable except for the formatting

 

[god_cat]

I actually think the profile I made is acceptable except for the formatting

but of course I'm open to better ones.

 

[Xavis10]

I actually think the profile I made is acceptable except for the formatting

It is for now, yes.

 

[Grand_Astartes]

I actually think the profile I made is acceptable except for the formatting

If you need any help with the formatting lmk

 

[god_cat]

If you need any help with the formatting lmk

Actually, one person helped me, but I'm open to other help.

 

[god_cat]

Bump

 

[god_cat]

Bump

 

[Grand_Astartes]

How many staff have agreed so far?

 

[Bobsican]

Only @Sir_Ovens, at least within this thread.

 

[Re5yh]

Only 4 more staff votes

 

[god_cat]

Only @Sir_Ovens, at least within this thread.

Should I do something to get more staff to see it?

 

[Bobsican]

Given this involves a tier 0, I would recommend that.

 

[god_cat]

Given this involves a tier 0, I would recommend that.

So what do you suggest I do?

 

[Bobsican]

Ask @Ultima_Reality to comment here, for starters

 

[Re5yh]

First, the force was a powers and abilities page
Now it will be the next tier 0 character

 

[Bobsican]

First, the force was a powers and abilities page
Now it will be the next tier 0 character

Well, that was for the Non-Legends continuity, so strictly speaking it was a page for separate entity to begin with.