Marvel Comics - Thor's Speed and Mjolnir

[Omnificence]

Mjolnir and Time​

From the 86th issue of Journey Into Mystery, Mjolnir has the power to enter the fourth dimension. In the 102nd issue of the same comic, Thor uses Mjolnir to travel to the 23rd century, and it's explicitly stated by Thor he can move forward and backward in time by swinging it at the speed of light. In The Avengers issue 180, Mjolnir was able to bend the fabric of space and time to send the Monolith to the furthest reaches of their galaxy. In issue 393 of Thor, Mjolnir has the ability to go so fast it transcends the boundaries between space and time.

Scaling Thor to Mjolnir​

Primarily, I believe Thor scales to Mjolnir mainly because of this scan, seeing as how he was able to throw it at speeds where it transcended the boundaries of space and time and catch it at said speed.

New speed statistic for Thor?​

This is mostly just a theory, but I believe if Thor can both throw and catch Mjolnir which can enter the fourth dimension and transcend the boundaries of space and time thereby granting it Immeasurable speed, I believe Thor should also possess Immeasurable speed.

If this works, I think his new speed statistic should be something like:

Massively FTL+ when not holding back (Can regularly travel across the universe or between the Nine Realms without the aid of the Bifrost in a very short amount of time. The Nine Realms are shown to be separate universes, Crossed several lightyears nigh-instantly), Immeasurable with Mjolnir and by overexerting himself (Can swing Mjolnir so fast he moves forward and backward in time; can throw and catch Mjolnir at speeds where it transcends the boundaries between space and time)

If this doesn't work, then at the very least I suggest we leave out the "by overexerting himself" part and just give him Immeasurable with Mjolnir

Who here agrees with me?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm unsure about Immeasurable speed, but time travel and time and space manipulation to an extent seems fine.

 

[Omnificence]

Okay, not the additions I expected, but just as long as we're giving something to Thor's profile I can accept it.

 

[AKM sama]

I agree with DDM. I don't know about immeasurable speed since all he's doing is swinging it at the speed of light, but he is traveling in time as a result of that so time travel with Mjolnir is fine. If we want to give immeasurable simply for the fact that he can time travel, then it shouldn't scale to Thor's normal speed.

 

[Omnificence]

I agree with DDM. I don't know about immeasurable speed since all he's doing is swinging it at the speed of light, but he is traveling in time as a result of that so time travel with Mjolnir is fine. If we want to give immeasurable simply for the fact that he can time travel, then it shouldn't scale to Thor's normal speed.

So, can we still give Thor Immeasurable speed just by using Mjolnir?

 

[Panache_x]

From the 86th issue of Journey Into Mystery, Mjolnir has the power to enter the fourth dimension.

All u said from here.....

move forward and backward in time by swinging it at the speed of light

Up to here is suggesting he's able to time travel when Mjolnir is spinned at exactly twice Light Speed = 599,584,916m/s and isn't anything to award Immeasurable speed so that rating would be Time Travel/Time Manipulation(Capable of traveling through time via swinging Mjolnir two times the speed of light)

Mjolnir was able to bend the fabric of space and time

Yh... This would be Space Time Manipulation

In issue 393 of Thor, Mjolnir has the ability to go so fast it transcends the boundaries between space and time.

Haha this is the tricky one
The boundaries between space time can refer to the boundary between two Spatiotemporally isolated Universe/Dimension or whatever
I dunno the exact Context but from what is there he was transporting the building to another space time?
Anyways not still Immeasurable speed
That'll be BFR via his Manipulation previously stated

 

[Omnificence]

Up to here is suggesting he's able to time travel when Mjolnir is spinned at exactly twice Light Speed = 599,584,916m/s and isn't anything to award Immeasurable speed so that rating would be Time Travel/Time Manipulation(Capable of traveling through time via swinging Mjolnir two times the speed of light)

Well, he is missing Time Travel and Time Manipulation, after all, so I guess that should be added to his profile.

Yh... This would be Space Time Manipulation

Yeah, he doesn't have Spatial Manipulation, either. Maybe that should be added as well.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with AKM and Medeus, but Immortus later removed Thor's time-travel ability, so it is not a current power.

 

[Antvasima]

See here:

Thor Vol 1 282

Featured Characters: ⏴ Thor ⏵ Supporting Characters: Celestials (Mentioned) Arishem (Mentioned) Frankenstein's Monster (Main story and flashback) Time-Keepers (First appearance) Ast (First appearance) Vorth (First appearance) Zanth (First appearance) Antagonists: ⏴ Space Phantom ⏵ Tempus...

marvel.fandom.com

 

[Omnificence]

I agree with AKM and Medeus, but Immortus later removed Thor's time-travel ability, so it is not a current power.

I was afraid somebody would mention that. I'm aware he lacks the Time Travel ability, but can it be listed as a former power?

 

[Antvasima]

I think so, yes.

 

[Omnificence]

Okay then. Can we also add the other powers and abilities @Panache_x and @DarkDragonMedeus listed off?

If we want to give immeasurable simply for the fact that he can time travel, then it shouldn't scale to Thor's normal speed.

So, can we still give Thor Immeasurable speed with Mjolnir in this case?

 

[Firestorm808]

Unless the object does time travel via pure speed, it doesn't count for immeasurable speed, right?

 

[Antvasima]

Unless the object does time travel via pure speed, it doesn't count for immeasurable speed, right?

That is correct, yes, but we can probably list time-travel as a former power.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Its just a time travel feat. Its not a showing for immeasurable combat speed.

 

[Antvasima]

Does Thor have any other former powers that we can list in an extra tabber in the powers and abilities section of his VSB wiki page?

You can check his Marvel wiki and Wikipedia pages for information about this if you wish.

 

[Omnificence]

Well...

I do have some instances of him displaying resistance to soul manipulation.

• Mephisto is unable to devour his soul
• Unhurt by Ghost Rider's hellfire
• Thor's soul is strong enough to stun Doctor Strange

Also have some instances of him showing resistance to Telepathy.

• Resists the telepathy of a Deviant that could control entire civilizations
• The Goddess, who is able to control many of earth's heroes, is unable to tame Thor's "Asgardian spirit"
• Phoenix Emma Frost is unable to look into his mind
• Quickly recovers from a powerful mind attack
• Is only staggered by enough mental energy to "render an entire civilization totally senseless"

 

[Antvasima]

Those abilities seem good to add to his regular resistances section. Thank you very much for helping out.

 

[Omnificence]

You're welcome. Also, I was wondering whether or not he could have a limited form of Type 2 Immortality with these scans.

• Has his jaw nearly torn from his face by Hela, and keeps fighting.
• Keeps fighting after being impaled
• Survives being pierced by Phoenix Emma Frost's diamond form broken into chunks
• Young Thor is impaled in several places and wounded badly but survives

 

[Panache_x]

Immortality with these scans.

I don't think limited Immortality is a thing but u might aswell add these

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Just found this thread lol.

Regarding the OP, yeah I'm not sure that that is Immeasurable speed, like what the others have said

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Well...

I do have some instances of him displaying resistance to soul manipulation.

• Mephisto is unable to devour his soul
• Unhurt by Ghost Rider's hellfire
• Thor's soul is strong enough to stun Doctor Strange

Also have some instances of him showing resistance to Telepathy.

• Resists the telepathy of a Deviant that could control entire civilizations
• The Goddess, who is able to control many of earth's heroes, is unable to tame Thor's "Asgardian spirit"
• Phoenix Emma Frost is unable to look into his mind
• Quickly recovers from a powerful mind attack
• Is only staggered by enough mental energy to "render an entire civilization totally senseless"

You're welcome. Also, I was wondering whether or not he could have a limited form of Type 2 Immortality with these scans.

• Has his jaw nearly torn from his face by Hela, and keeps fighting.
• Keeps fighting after being impaled
• Survives being pierced by Phoenix Emma Frost's diamond form broken into chunks
• Young Thor is impaled in several places and wounded badly but survives

I don't think limited Immortality is a thing but u might aswell add these

All these look good as well

 

[Omnificence]

I completely forgot about this thread. Lol!

So, can we at least give Thor type 2 Immortality?

 

[Antvasima]

If he doesn't have resistance to soul manipulation and telepathy, as well as type 2 immortality, listed, all of those abilities seem fine to add to his VSB wiki page, yes.

 

[Omnificence]

He doesn't seem to have any of these powers.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Is some experienced member willing to apply these changes please?

 

[Omnificence]

@Antvasima Can you do it or are you busy?

 

[Antvasima]

@MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer @Firestorm808

Would either of you be willing to handle it please? I am behind with my work schedule.

 

[Firestorm808]

I'll look over them.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. Your help is very appreciated.

 

[Firestorm808]

Sorry for the late reply.

Adding the following: resistance to soul manipulation and telepathy, as well as type 2 immortality

 

[Firestorm808]

Added. Will close now.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you to everybody who helped out here.