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Bro i said "pages on contexts or physiologies of verses." This is a character profile
Not the mention half of the shit here is old and just left at "resistance" instead of immunity-
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Thor VS Yhwach
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Not the mention half of the shit here is old and just left at "resistance" instead of immunity
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The context is still related as you need outright additions that it's immunityBro i said "pages on contexts or physiologies of verses." This is a character profile
If you want, we can go to all purpose thread and ask staffs
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Actually yeah, no need of pointless arguing it would solve the issue faster
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All-purpose request thread (New forum)
Done Mind if you unlock it for a moment too? I'd like to improve a bit the coding visually as I noticed other issues. Same with these 2, I'd like to change a bit the renders as they're a bit off imo.
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Only for Thor's true form on Asgard, not on Earth
Oliver_de_jesus
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- Death Manipulation and Biological Manipulation (Immortals can resist Decay's touch<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/God_Physiology_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-67">[66]</a> which causes living things to quickly decay and die.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/God_Physiology_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-68">[67]</a> Gods are creatures of magic, and magic do not follow the rules of physics or biology<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/G..._Comics)#cite_note-Loki:_Agent_of_Asgard_#6-5">[5]</a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/God_Physiology_(Marvel_Comics)#cite_note-69">[68]</a>)
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Also, I don't understand why the discussion about Magic, since Yhwach doesn't use Magic.
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Because it grants them normal resistances.
If the layered invisibility is real, yes. Marvel has no hax layers besides levels of magic mastery.
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So a stomp in Yhwach's favor
Tomfer
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Yhwach cannot do anything with Thor's 1-A resistances, and Thor cannot see him. It's a mismatch.
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Thor through basic magic cant he plot manipulate even if he doesnt sees yhwach I mean for marvel standarts "I can see this guy now" isnt that much busted considering the things Thor done
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Also a staff just mentioned that Gods indeed are not immune to poison manip
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Please close this, Thor solos the verse.
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Yeah i kinda agree at this point
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No, they both have wincons.
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When did Thor use it in combat?
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For Yhwach's, he poison hax as the staffs agree that Thor has no immunities to it and layered invisibility
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Magic in Marvel is basically anything supernatural, from what I can gather. It also seems to let people resist stuff that isn't specifically magic, either.
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Only one person agreed with you, and they didn't say anything about invisibility.
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What do you mean by this?
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For thor, basically smurfed out 1-A crap.
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That was my impression reading through the pages, but looking at them again, I really don't know why I said that? Especially since there's a bunch of "supernatural" stuff in Marvel that isn't magic, so ignore that.
Oliver_de_jesus
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He also resisted a wave of psychic toxins from Glory that permeated every level of his being: body, mind and spirit.
The poison (specially since spiritual) is not a problem considering that Thor resisted Glory's attacks that do this, with those that affect the spirit/astral being being at a potency of 1-A
also Yhwach even here likely not use Sternritter's Schrifts, since it is too out of character for him
The poison (specially since spiritual) is not a problem considering that Thor resisted Glory's attacks that do this, with those that affect the spirit/astral being being at a potency of 1-A
also Yhwach even here likely not use Sternritter's Schrifts, since it is too out of character for him
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The point is we ask a staff. And that staff clarifies that Thor has no built in immunities
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I don't think it matter since Askin's poison induces resistance negation
Yhwach would since he has passive precognition
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If the poison is an abstract thing with a potency of 1-A (If i understood Oliver correctly) poison resistance negation doesnt works here. It makes his resistance a smurf
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It has been requested to close this thread for being a stomp. Not being able to personally assess the situation, is there a consensus on the matter?
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You need resistance to resist negation, not normal resist
Oliver_de_jesus
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There is a qualitative difference between Thor's resistence and Yhwach's RN, it is not infinite, it is even superior to infinity, it is NLF say a 3D ability will work when we know Higher D make you immune to lower D abilities unless feats
Anyway, Magic will get resistence to precognition (making A unable to see Thor thus, cant really control him)
Anyway, Magic will get resistence to precognition (making A unable to see Thor thus, cant really control him)
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Resistant negation doesnt work that way any qualitatively superior hax resistance grants you immunity against lower ones regardless if it is layered or has restance negation
Thats why the site has a separate non-smurf strongest characters list
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Where it's mention that within the wiki? Since resistance negation just negate/bypass your resistances and not simply overpowering it
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Qualitative superiority means the power is atleast a whole dimension above
You need to 1-A resistance negation
to bypass 1-A resistance
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and why Yhwach would use Sternritter's Schrifts? he dont use them in character iirc
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You are correct. Theoretically he could, but we've never seen him use them.
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Bump.
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? Yhwach wouldn't be able to mind hax Thor if this is what you're implying.
why?
TA won't be able to alter 1-A hax nor would it prevent thor from using it.
Magic inherently is Acausal and on the magic page makes time itself unpredictable.
iirc not how TA works.
he can't force a character not to use something in their arsenal.
Thor resists 90% of the Schrifts and idk if it's in character for Yhwach to even use these.
unfortunately.
Marvel has it's own magic system with abilities and passives other magic users resist as seen on the page.
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Also, the fundamental building blocks of magic as stated in the page have created realms of temporal unpredictability. (TA couldn't even see Thor in any possible timeline to begin with.)
and even tho, Acaus 4 doesn't automatically grant Thor resistance to fate manip. Thor still would operate on a separate level of causality. "Mystic Causality/time"
TA can't alter this 1-A magical system of time.
and even tho, Acaus 4 doesn't automatically grant Thor resistance to fate manip. Thor still would operate on a separate level of causality. "Mystic Causality/time"
TA can't alter this 1-A magical system of time.
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