Thor vs Hela rematch

[Coolboy6]

Here we go again

In the original match, apparently Hela beat Thor because stormbreaker = Mjolnir even though stormbreaker has far better feats than Mjolnir, plus Thor was far weaker when Hela broke Mjolnir
Anyways, Thor has the Stormbreaker in his awakened Thor key
Thor: 4

Hela: 1

 

[Dalesean027]

Wand- I mean momm- I mean The Scarlet Witch FRA



Seriously though awakened Thor with stormbreaker is way higher than his previous self that nerfed hela did in

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Well obviously.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Given Thor got a lot of hits in on Hela in their fight, he can definitely do it with Stormbreaker

Voting Thor

 

[Dalesean027]

Well obviously.

Yeah but the original matched use some pretty shoddy logic and didn't seem to grasp that the power of those vary from the user's own strength

 

[Coolboy6]

One year really can make a difference huh

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

again, at the time the profile of mjonir did not reflect that the durability varied based on the user.

 

[Coolboy6]

again, at the time the profile of mjonir did not reflect that the durability varied based on the user.

I thought it did IIRC

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Voting for Thor

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Mjonlir thor <<< weakened hela < casual hela > awakened thor <<< thanos <<< stormbreaker thor

Thanos should be comparable to hela.
Which thor kinda destroys

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Thanos should be comparable to hela.

Pretty sure Hela is superior

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Pretty sure Hela is superior

They both upscale from Awakened Thor, although Thanos obliterated a stronger Awakened Thor so there's that

 

[Kidkinsey]

Voting thor if he lands a hit with stormbreaker but I do think its gonna be close

 

[RoTt35]

Thor landing a hit with the Stormbreaker isn't an insta win, except if he goes for the head, since Hela has Low-Mid Regeneration and Type 2/3 Immortality

 

[Kidkinsey]

If he bisects her she can live? Thought her regen was only cuts and stuff

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Stormbreaker cuts real deep, so it's gonna be hard to regenerate from. That and Thor is gonna be aiming for the head

This fight is undeniably difficult for Thor, but I think he can manage to win

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Hela is far more experienced
Thor can fly, idk if that would help thor
Probably not considering she can shoot him down

Also is speed equalised here?
If not is there really any reason to assume hela is as fast as stormbreaker thor?

SB thor >= full IG thanos >> awakened thor = hela

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Stormbreaker thor is awakened Thor. They're not different things. Thanos was easily capable of reacting to Thor in Endgame. The only two times Thor landed a shot on Thanos was A.) caught off guard B.) Weakened, defenseless, and again off-guard.

 

[Coolboy6]

Stormbreaker thor is awakened Thor. They're not different things. Thanos was easily capable of reacting to Thor in Endgame. The only two times Thor landed a shot on Thanos was A.) caught off guard B.) Weakened, defenseless, and again off-guard.

Endgame Thor is basically fat Thor who is slower than his Infinity War self

 

[Dalesean027]

Endgame Thor is basically fat Thor who is slower than his Infinity War self

Stronger too

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Endgame Thor is basically fat Thor who is slower than his Infinity War self

Still roughly comparable. No reason to assume he'd be drastically slower simply because he gained weight.

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

I still think Hela would win this one. Awakened Endgame Thor, who was stated by WoG to be stronger in the five years since the Snap, with both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker at his disposal, couldn't defeat Thanos while working alongside Iron Man and Captain America, and was nearly impaled with Stormbreaker by Thanos as well. Thanos lost to Hela in another thread, so how exactly would Thor do better? If they're not on Asgard, then maybe Thor would win, but I'm not really seeing how Thor could pull out a victory here.

 

[Coolboy6]

I still think Hela would win this one. Awakened Endgame Thor, who was stated by WoG to be stronger in the five years since the Snap, with both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker at his disposal, couldn't defeat Thanos while working alongside Iron Man and Captain America, and was nearly impaled with Stormbreaker by Thanos as well. Thanos lost to Hela in another thread, so how exactly would Thor do better? If they're not on Asgard, then maybe Thor would win, but I'm not really seeing how Thor could pull out a victory here.

Thor sliced through the infinity gauntlet blast with ease. And one stone out of seven oneshot Captain Marvel. I don’t really agree with WoG since Endgame Thor was a lot slower which should give him a lesser force in his stormbreaker swings. Plus you are forgetting how EASILY Thanos was sliced and wounded just by having stormbreaker in his chest, and that would have killed him had it went for the head

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I still think Hela would win this one. Awakened Endgame Thor, who was stated by WoG to be stronger in the five years since the Snap, with both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker at his disposal, couldn't defeat Thanos while working alongside Iron Man and Captain America, and was nearly impaled with Stormbreaker by Thanos as well. Thanos lost to Hela in another thread, so how exactly would Thor do better? If they're not on Asgard, then maybe Thor would win, but I'm not really seeing how Thor could pull out a victory here.

Thanos lost to Hela in that thread because there she had Asgard empowerment and speed was equalized

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I don’t really agree with WoG since Endgame Thor was a lot slower which should give him a lesser force in his stormbreaker swings.

That's in travel speed, not in swinging speed. Also, that means nothing in the face of an indisputable statement

 

[Coolboy6]

Still roughly comparable. No reason to assume he'd be drastically slower simply because he gained weight.

Endgame Thor due to being slower would have a lesser amount in his strikes and due to slacking off for 5 years, he would still physically be weaker

speed was equalized

Speed wasn’t equalized in that thread, actually

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Speed wasn’t equalized in that thread, actually

Then Thanos should have had a significant speed advantage. That match might need to be re-evaluated

Endgame Thor due to being slower would have a lesser amount in his strikes and due to slacking off for 5 years, he would still physically be weaker

He is stated otherwise to be the strongest he's ever been

 

[Coolboy6]

That's in travel speed, not in swinging speed.

Wdym?

Also, that means nothing in the face of an indisputable statement

I guess the statement was saying that Thor’s lighting was stronger but not his physical strength and speed

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I guess the statement was saying that Thor’s lighting was stronger but not his physical strength and speed

1. Even if they said lightning, Thor scales to his lightning
2. That wasn't specified. They just said he's stronger than ever before

 

[Coolboy6]

Then Thanos should have had a significant speed advantage. That match might need to be re-evaluated

It’s unknown how Thor’s first fight with Thanos went so I wouldn’t really say that he blitzed, plus Thor was able to keep up with Hela somewhat

He is stated otherwise to be the strongest he's ever been

IIRC, it was said that he was stronger due to having motivation from that talk from his past mother

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

It’s unknown how Thor’s first fight with Thanos went so I wouldn’t really say that he blitzed, plus Thor was able to keep up with Hela somewhat

Thor in the IW novelization stated that Thanos moved at faster than he'd ever seen before

 

[Coolboy6]

Thor in the IW novelization stated that Thanos moved at speeds faster than he'd ever seen before

Does it also say that the stormbreaker increases combat and reaction speed? Thanos was blitzed by a lightning blast which he clearly saw before it hit him

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Does it also say that the stormbreaker increases combat and reaction speed? Thanos was blitzed by a lightning blast which he clearly saw before it hit him

Nah.

 

[Coolboy6]

Thor has still fought Hela many times to where he knows how she fights and how dangerous she is, so he’ll likely stay in the air and shoot her with lightning and would most likely throw his stormbreaker and try to end the fight quickly by going for the head which will definitely kill her.

Thor takes this

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I don't think he even needs to spam ranged attacks. He was able to keep up in close quarters and land hits during their fight. One strike from Stormbreaker and she'll be gravely injured if not immediately killed

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Still voting for Thor. My opinion did not change from the other match

 

[Kidkinsey]

Thors 1st attack caught thanos off guard but the failed headshot scene thanos launched the IG beam first

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Bump

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Thors 1st attack caught thanos off guard but the failed headshot scene thanos launched the IG beam first

Thanos spotted him from pretty far away and tried to blast him, which failed since Stormbreaker simply tore through the blast and into Thanos. Thor did not blitz him or anything

He didn't manage to kill him only because he didn't aim correctly for his head, and in Endgame, he finished Thanos effortlessly wuth Stormbreaker (though Thanos didn't foght back)

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Bump